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<p>Just a couple of comments:</p>
<p>- both the JOSM and Vespucci default presets are in general under
a lot less pressure and in the end less scrutiny than iDs because
they are end user replaceable and extendable. Naturally the
choices made by the devs still affect tagging, including, oops,
errors.<br>
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<p>- I suggested a common system for preset storage and generation
for GSOC two years back there wasn't very much uptake of the idea,
and at least one rather hostile reaction. At that time it seemed
reasonably viable, I'm not so sure now, given the way iD presets
have evolved. <br>
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<p>- I'm going to do a talk on Presets at SOTM this year (not
focused that much on the topic at hand, but will surely touch on
all of the above)<br>
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Simon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 20.06.2018 um 09:17 schrieb Mateusz
Konieczny:<br>
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19. Jun 2018 21:51 by <a href="mailto:osm@imagico.de"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">osm@imagico.de</a>:<br>
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<blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid
#93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;">If i read you
correctly you are unwilling to<br>
<br>
* establish verifiable principles for decisions about tagging
presets in <br>
iD that limit use of presets to push subjectively preferred
tagging <br>
ideas against existing widely accepted practice.<br>
* modify iD to allow for more diversity in tagging presets used
by <br>
mappers (for example by offering presets available in JOSM as an
<br>
alternative).<br>
* refrain from connecting tagging discussions you start here to
iD <br>
preset decisions - including use of your decision power as
leverage in <br>
discourse, like with</blockquote>
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<p>I think that this concerns are valid, though I would not mix it
with claim</p>
<p>that editor developers controlling presets is wrong.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>There is no real alternative, there is no an independent
general preset,</p>
<p>and I would not expect to suddenly find people willing to
maintain one in a <br>
</p>
<p>long term.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Especially after excluding developers of editors.<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>There is <a
href="https://github.com/simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset"
target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/simonpoole/beautified-JOSM-preset</a>
but it is</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>- controlled by editor developer anyway</p>
<p>- has nearly no activity from people that are not developers of
editors using it</p>
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