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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-06-28 13:40, Paul Allen wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 4:40 AM, André Pirard <span
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2018-06-27 16:28, Paul Allen wrote:<br>
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<div>[Suggestion to use amenity=charging_station +
charging:bicycle=yes + charging:car=yes<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> I remember having
been told off by someone who doesn't like namespaces:
"we are not doing like that" <span
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<div>People on this list have strong opinions. Often those
opinions are in opposition. But whoever told you not<br>
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ignoring the fact that OSM already does use namespaces.
If most people say yes<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">and one person says no
but presents no valid argument for his objection, ignore
that one person.<br>
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OK, but they shout louder and the problem is that it's the other
contributors who must ignore them.<br>
And it's painful to read replies with just what is sub-optimal in a
proposition and no better alternatives towards the same goal.<br>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> But you are, like
me, perfectly right using it because we could have<br>
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charging:bicycle:amperage=* different from
charging:car:amperage=*<br>
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Please understand what I meant.<br>
I'm just demonstrating the general versatility and usefulness of
namespace, not discussing amperage.<br>
"could have things like..." if you prefer.<br>
(But then, charging:amperage=* won't hurt and be consistent)<br>
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<div>The connectors have a maximum amperage, which may
fall off as the battery<br>
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<div>becomes nearly full, or because battery temperature
monitoring throttles the current. If there are<br>
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<div>different physical sockets for cars and bicycles then
you specify their maximum current with<br>
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<div>socket:typeX=7 or whatever. If it's the same socket
for both then you just specify the maximum<br>
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<div>current and it's down to whatever you plug in to draw
as much or as little as it needs.<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">You'd only need the
charging:bicycle:amperage if it's a common socket but with
the smarts to<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">detect what kind of
thing is plugged into it and limit the maximum current
accordingly.<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">All that said, if cars
and bikes have different sockets then tagging the socket
type is enough<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">to determine if bikes
can charge there. If it's a common socket then the
maximum current is<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">enough to figure out
if you can charge only a bike, or a bike and a car, or a
bike, a car and a<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">truck there. Of
course, there may be other constraints: the charging point
may have a connector<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">capable of being used
by bikes, cars and trucks but trucks won't fit in the
parking space and the<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">operator doesn't like
bikes taking up a socket but only permits cars. Which
puts it into the<br>
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<div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">realm of access
restrictions.<br>
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