<html><head></head><body>Paul,<br>
I have no problem with putting more tags on those ways crossing the lake, route=canoe if you like it. <br>
My peg is round here and we can indeed expand specifically the whitewater page to lakes, etc.<br>
Grade 0 is not in the ' International scale of river difficulty' quoted in OSM wiki. Our expansion of the difficulty scale obviously apply to still water. <br>
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I also think this allow a consistent tagging for the ways along a route that crosses lake and follow rivers. <br>
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Needless to say, if you never paddled there, please don't map it. <br>
Yves <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 30 juin 2018 23:39:47 GMT+02:00, Paul Allen <pla16021@gmail.com> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 10:15 PM, Yves <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yvecai@mailbox.org" target="_blank">yvecai@mailbox.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><div>There is a way to avoid tagging the way with the route tag:<br>
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whitewater:section_grade=0<br>
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See <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Whitewater_sports#Grades" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Whitewater_sports#<wbr>Grades</a><br>
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I consent your canoe practice on a lake is perhaps far from 'whitewater' practice, but grade 0 describes a lake perfectly. And if the route follows a river with grade 1, then map it as such.</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Unless I misunderstand the wiki page, whitewater:section_grade is only documented as applying to waterway=river.<br></div><div>There is nothing there implying it is valid to use it with anything other than rivers.<br><br></div><div>Whereas route=* applies to any route which isn't rigidly defined: boat travel, aeroplanes, driving across a desert.<br></div><div>Anywhere you need to join points A and B with a way that is not rigidly defined but merely a suggestion.<br><br></div><div>Yes, you could modify the documentation so whitewater:section_grade also applies to lakes, oceans and seas but<br></div><div>then you'd need to emphasise that grades higher than 0 must not be used on anything other than rivers. And it<br></div><div>still doesn't apply to aircraft or driving across a desert or pistes.<br><br></div><div>You're trying to bash a square peg into a round hole here, and doing so when somebody has already handed you a<br></div><div>round peg of the correct size.<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></body></html>