<div dir="auto">Search in this list for "[Tagging] Manor tagging" around march 14th.<div dir="auto">The manor is the area around the house (la finca)</div><div dir="auto">The manor house it the house itself.</div><div dir="auto">Yours,</div><div dir="auto">José Moya</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">El 4/7/2018 12:36 PM, "César Martínez Izquierdo" <<a href="mailto:cesar.izq@gmail.com">cesar.izq@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
I wonder the best way to tag Spanish historic farmhouses ("masías"<br>
[1], "caseríos" [2] "cortijos", "pazos", etc), since I find no proper<br>
value of "historic" for them.<br>
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They are prominent buildings that are spread all over the country,<br>
dating from at least the XVII century and in some cases having Roman<br>
origins. Some of them are still used as farmhouses, but most of them<br>
are abandoned or have a different use nowadays: museums, hotels,<br>
private houses, etc. They had great importance in the past since they<br>
were used to administer the fields surrounding them. Nowadays the are<br>
relevant from the point of view of architecture and they are also<br>
important landmarks in the rural areas. They are named (e.g. "Masía<br>
Tristán") and its name has been extended to identify the area<br>
surrounding them.<br>
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I think that the best way is to tag their current use (e.g.<br>
building=hotel, or building=civic+tourism=museum, etc) and then use<br>
the "historic" tag to note they are a historic farmhouse.<br>
<br>
I see different options for the proper historic value.<br>
<br>
1- historic=manor<br>
2- historic=farmhouse<br>
3- historic=masia, historic=cortijo, etc<br>
<br>
I wonder if option 1 (manor) is too specific to UK or it can be<br>
applied also to these kind of building.<br>
<br>
OSM wiki states: "The manor tag is intended only for representative<br>
buildings that are in the same time the administrative center of a<br>
large agricultural estate. Buildings lacking this economic feature<br>
should not be tagged.".<br>
<br>
Regarding option 2, this would be a new value for historic, and I am<br>
not sure it will really catch the historic relevance of the building.<br>
We don't tag it as historic because it was a farmhouse, but because of<br>
its architecture and historic relevance in administering the lands<br>
surrounding it.<br>
<br>
The 3rd option (using different values for each kind building) looks a<br>
bit overkilling, since there are many different names (masía,<br>
alquería, cortijo, caserío, pazo, cigarral, quinta, carmen, etc, etc)<br>
and this would create too much tag fragmentation.<br>
<br>
Finally, there is also historic=farm, but it does not fit in this case<br>
according its definition.<br>
<br>
Opinions?<br>
<br>
César Martínez<br>
<br>
[1] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masia" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Masia</a><br>
[2] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baserri" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Baserri</a><br>
[3] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cortijo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Cortijo</a><br>
[4] <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pazo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Pazo</a><br>
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