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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">The 'fish passes' I am familiar with
      are all man made, they provide fish a way around weirs, dams and
      locks. <br>
      They certainly are not intended for human transportation and
      should not provide a lot of water flow.<br>
      They are different from spillways, canals and other man made
      waterways, they are not a sub class to them. <br>
      If they are not to be considered part of the waterway key then
      possibly they can be added to the key man_made. <br>
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       On 19/07/18 17:57, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote:<br>
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        <div>Hello</div>
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        <div><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-" lang="en"><span
              class="gmail-">I personally prefer a few main values in
              the waterway to define the general cases and subtags for
              specific cases like this, of the type of usage =
              fiss_pass.</span> <span class="gmail-">If I am in front
              of an infrastructure of this type, its physical
              characteristics will allow me to distinguish if it is a
              channel, ditch or brook.</span> <span class="gmail-">If
              it was built for the purpose of fish passing it is a
              separate issue.</span> Are a fish_pass different in nature
            to any other waterway? Waterway different in it's
            construction nature could be used as a fish_pass? If the
            answers to this questions are no and yes, put the fish_pass
            value apart of the main waterway key. <span class="gmail-">This
              form seems simpler and more versatile to me.<br>
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              class="gmail-"><span id="gmail-result_box" class="gmail-"
                lang="en"><span class="gmail-">By the way: in the table
                  of values added to the wiki there is a strange blank
                  gap between the blue cells of ditch/brook and
                  pressurised.</span> <span>Also the culvert cell is
                  misaligned with respect to the cave cell and others.</span>
                <span class="gmail-">Is this intentional and has a
                  meaning or an error when constructing the table that
                  can be corrected?</span><br>
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        <div>Regards, Javier<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2018-07-19 8:30 GMT+01:00 Mateusz
          Konieczny <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" target="_blank"
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              <div>In case of waterway=fish_pass I think that a new
                waterway is OK as</div>
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              <div>- it is drastically different from other defined
                waterways</div>
              <div>- is not a navigable waterway<br>
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              - is not redefining already mapped objects<br>
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              17. Lipiec 2018 23:04 od <a
                href="mailto:fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com" rel="noopener
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                      <div>Hi all,</div>
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                      <div>A discussion has recently started about
                        waterway=fish_pass here :</div>
                      <div><a
                          href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:waterway%3Dfish_pass"
                          rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Talk:Tag:waterway%<wbr>3Dfish_pass</a></div>
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                      <div>While writing <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Hydropower_water_supplies"
                          rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Proposed_features/<wbr>Hydropower_water_supplies</a>
                        it was asked to not clutter waterway=* with
                        spillway since it was a specific usage of a man
                        made canal.</div>
                      <div>Such ideas lead to separate waterway nature,
                        usage and sometimes supporting infrastructure to
                        get a tagging model with 3 different
                        corresponding keys.</div>
                      <div>A comprehensive table of waterways natures
                        has been set here : <a
                          href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:waterway#Values"
                          rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Key:waterway#Values</a><br>
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                      <div>May it be great to consider usage=fish_pass
                        with waterway=* (canal, presumably) for sake of
                        consistency?</div>
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                      <div>Feel free to read and comment on the Talk
                        page</div>
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                      <div>All the best</div>
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                      <div>François<br>
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