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<p>I think people use the ref tag because that makes sense. I'm not
a golfer but on allotments the whole site usually has a name and
the individual plots have a number (ref=*). The OSM Standard map
can't show everything. We used to have a map like that as a sort
of 'debug' map for mappers; it was useful but horrible to look at
as everything was jammed in and not one to share more widely.
Abusing the name tag is a common beginner's mistake, let's not
encourage even more use of the name tag - rather make or find a
render that shows what you want for a particular purpose. <br>
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<p>If RichardF's push towards vector maps bears fruit, displaying
specific items for your own needs should become easier. If Richard
succeeds, then an OBE should follow his recent award! Well done
Richard.</p>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
cheers
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/08/2018 23:49, Paul Allen wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:03 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick
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<div>What's the green dot in the middle of the 13th
fairway?</div>
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<div>With some detective work, it turns out to be a tree.<br>
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<div>What puzzles me about golf putting greens and allotment
plots is this: why did they choose to embed useful
information<br>
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<div>in a ref (which doesn't get rendered in OSM carto)
instead of a name (which is rendered)? Andy's style
displays<br>
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<div>refs; look at the same course in OSM and you have no
way of telling which green is which.<br>
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<div>This is even more puzzling when I see that the guy who
proposed the allotment plot tag explicitly mentioned ref
but,<br>
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<div>in the proposal page his example leads to the only plot
in the allotment which has a name (and none of the plots
have<br>
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<div>refs). Yes, data protection means allotment plots
usually should not have a person's name but this was
something like<br>
the Fred Bloggs Memorial Allotment. But why hide
allotment numbers in references rather than displaying
them as a<br>
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<div>name where people can actually see the plot they're
looking for. "I've assigned you plot 12, here's a map of
the<br>
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<div>allotment that doesn't display the plot numbers, so
you'll have to guess where yours is."<br>
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<div>What piece of OSM history that I know nothing of led
people to decide that it was sensible to encode useful<br>
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<div>information that people would wish to see on a map in a
way that doesn't get displayed?</div>
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