<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 6:38 PM, Daniel McCormick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mccormick@kaartgroup.com" target="_blank">mccormick@kaartgroup.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
The goal of OSM is not to create a map that renders great on the default renderer. The goal is to create repository that can be rendered quickly and easily by anyone. The default map is what we primarily interact with and just like anything it has become the lens by which we view our contribution to the map. However, that lens is not the best viewing glass in most situations. When we add multiple languages we are not actually adding anything to data, as long as we are using name:xx=*, but rather are cluttering the existing data and impeding the use of the very data that we spend so much time making better. With the names properly categorized we can create a renderer that does all we want it to in much simpiler fashion then if we are to add multilingual names to the name=* tag. We could even make a renderer that shows multilingual names that sources all of our name:xx tags.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I fully agree that in a monolingual area, adding other languages in the name=* tag is foolish and unhelpful. For<br></div><div>streets I'd argue that adding name:xx=* is also unhelpful. Seeing "William Strasse" or "Wilhelm Strasse" on a map<br></div><div>isn't much help if you're on the ground and looking at as sign saying "William Street."<br></div><div><br></div><div>The situation changes in multilingual areas, where the signs themselves are multilingual. The example I keep<br></div>using is: <br><br><div style="margin-left:40px">Heol Napier<br></div><div style="margin-left:40px">Napier Street<br><br></div>But if the sign were damaged and replaced, the new sign is more likely to follow more recent conventions and<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">say "Heol Napier Street."<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Either way name:cy="Heol Napier" and name:en="Napier Street" but in both situations rendering either of those<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">does *not* show what the sign actually says. Having the renderer software use " / " to concatenate the two represents<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">the first format adequately but misrepresents the second.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I don't think there is any substitute for mapping and rendering the actuality. Maybe with vector tiles and the option to<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">display any or all of name, name:cy, name:en, loc_name and alt_name at the click of a mouse, that changes, but I'd<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">still prefer on-the-ground reality as the default.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div> <br>-- <br></div><div>Paul<br><br></div></div></div></div>