<div dir="auto"><div>Hello Szem</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">No. That way is just the opposite of the intended meaning. It says that every body need a permit (for example cars) and hikers and riders can access freely. The previous one was ok. Access=no (or private as someones suggest) + transportmode=permit</div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">El lun., 13 ago. 2018 20:54, Szem <<a href="mailto:szembiketeam@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">szembiketeam@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
    
  
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    <span>access=permit, foot=yes, horse=yes, bicycle=yes<br>
      ?<br>
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      <span>- Roads in wildlife conservation areas</span>:<br>
      <span>access= private, motor_vehicle=permit,
        bicycle=permit</span>, <span>foot=yes</span><br>
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    <span>access=permit, foot=yes<br>
      ?<br>
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      OK?<br>
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      Counter:<br>
      In the page of  <a class="m_112858289645867037m_-4641973165439776682moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access%3Dpermit" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access%3Dpermit</a> 
      the small counter counts only "<span>access=permit" tag,
        but these roads doesn't have this tag.<br>
        Can be converted it to "*=permit</span>" or sg like this? If I
      change all the roads, it will not look.<br>
      <br>
      Wiki:<br>
      When I mentioned the wiki, I meant this page below it:<br>
      <a class="m_112858289645867037m_-4641973165439776682moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access</a> 
      -  Access tag values<br>
      Can not you put this access value there?<br>
      <br>
      Thanks,<br>
      <br>
      Szem<br>
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      2018.08.12. 23:30 keltezéssel, Graeme Fitzpatrick írta:
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On 13 August 2018 at 06:50, Kevin
              Kenny <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kevin.b.kenny+osm@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">kevin.b.kenny+osm@gmail.com</a>></span>
              wrote:<br>
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                  On Sun, Aug 12, 2018 at 9:48 AM Szem <<a href="mailto:szembiketeam@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">szembiketeam@gmail.com</a>>

                  wrote:<br>
                  > I begun to use the "permit" tag, what is the
                  correct tagging for these categories?<br>
                  ><br>
                  > - Roads found in Waterworks area (You could get
                  permit only for biking and walking, no cars except for
                  their own ones)<br>
                  > access=private, motor_vehicle / vehicle = private
                  ? bicycle=permit, foot=permit, horse=no<br>
                  <br>
                </span>Sounds right; no need to tag motor_vehicle
                separately, since 'access'<br>
                covers all transportation modes that aren't called out
                separately.<br>
                <span><br>
                  > - Roads on the embankments (By any motor vehicle
                  without permission is forbidden, except for their own
                  ones, other access is free)<br>
                  > access= private, motor_vehicle / vehicle =permit
                  ? foot=yes, horse=yes, bicycle=yes,<br>
                  <br>
                </span>If permission is readily obtainable, then
                'permit'. If permission<br>
                happens on a case-by-case basis, 'private' is probably
                closer.<br>
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              <div> <span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none;display:inline">In
                  cases when only official vehicles (National Parks,
                  Water supply etc) are allowed, I've always called that
                  vehicles=no, working on "</span><span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);float:none;display:inline"><span> </span></span><i style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px;background-color:rgb(249,249,249)">no</i><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13.3px;background-color:rgb(249,249,249)"> – No access
                  for the general public."?</span></div>
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              <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span> > - Roads managed
                  by Hunting Association, wildlife conservation areas
                  (Crossing by any vehicle without permission is
                  forbidden, except for their own ones):<br>
                  > access= private, motor_vehicle / vehicle =
                  permit, foot=yes, horse=permit, bicycle= permit<br>
                  <br>
                </span>Once again, if it's "access granted if you comply
                with the<br>
                formalities", then 'permit', otherwise 'private'.  The
                Hunting<br>
                Association one sounds as if it restricts access to its
                own members?<br>
                In that case, it's definitely "private."</blockquote>
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              <div>& yes, I'd agree that Members only is "private"</div>
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              <div>Thanks</div>
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              <div>Graeme </div>
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