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    Thanks Javier and Warin!<br>
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    Always the first thought is the best...<br>
    <span class="">(Roads found in Waterworks area</span> -<span
      class=""> access=private, bicycle=permit, foot=permit</span>)<br>
    (<span class="">Roads on the embankments</span> - <span class="">access=private,
      motor_vehicle=permit, foot=yes, bicycle=yes)</span><br>
    <span class="">(Roads in wildlife reserve</span> - <span class="">access=private,
      motor_vehicle=permit, bicycle=permit</span>, <span class="">foot=yes</span>)<br>
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    and what about the other two things: the counter and the wiki<br>
    Could anyone answer this?<br>
    <br>
    Szem<br>
    <br>
    2018.08.14. 14:24 keltezéssel, Warin írta:
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Some examples might help?<br>
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        If tagged <br>
        access=no <br>
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        with no following access tags then it means<br>
        <br>
        no one has access. <br>
        <br>
        If tagged <br>
        access=no <br>
        <br>
        with the following access tag<br>
        <br>
        foot=permit<br>
        <br>
        then it means<br>
        <br>
        no one has access,<br>
        except<br>
        if on foot .. then they have to have a permit to have access. <br>
        <br>
        If tagged <br>
        access=no <br>
        <br>
        with the following access tags <br>
        <br>
        bicycle=yes<br>
        horse=yes<br>
        <br>
        then it means<br>
        <br>
        no one has access,<br>
        except<br>
        if  by bicycle or horse .. then they have access. <br>
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        On 14/08/18 19:37, Javier Sánchez Portero wrote:<br>
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          <div>Hello Szem</div>
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          <div dir="auto">No. That way is just the opposite of the
            intended meaning. It says that every body need a permit (for
            example cars) and hikers and riders can access freely. The
            previous one was ok. Access=no (or private as someones
            suggest) + transportmode=permit</div>
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              <div dir="ltr">El lun., 13 ago. 2018 20:54, Szem <<a
                  href="mailto:szembiketeam@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                  rel="noreferrer" moz-do-not-send="true">szembiketeam@gmail.com</a>>

                escribió:<br>
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                  <span>access=permit, foot=yes, horse=yes, bicycle=yes<br>
                    ?<br>
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                    <span>- Roads in wildlife conservation areas</span>:<br>
                    <span>access= private, motor_vehicle=permit,
                      bicycle=permit</span>, <span>foot=yes</span><br>
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                  <span>access=permit, foot=yes<br>
                    ?<br>
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                    OK?<br>
                    <br>
                    Counter:<br>
                    In the page of  <a
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href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access%3Dpermit"
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                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/access%3Dpermit</a> 
                    the small counter counts only "<span>access=permit"
                      tag, but these roads doesn't have this tag.<br>
                      Can be converted it to "*=permit</span>" or sg
                    like this? If I change all the roads, it will not
                    look.<br>
                    <br>
                    Wiki:<br>
                    When I mentioned the wiki, I meant this page below
                    it:<br>
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href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access" rel="noreferrer
                      noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access</a> 
                    -  Access tag values<br>
                    Can not you put this access value there?<br>
                    <br>
                    Thanks,<br>
                    <br>
                    Szem</blockquote>
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