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<p>hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was
thinking more about areas that were known crime spots/had
associated illegal activities people may want to avoid(to the
point there are regular police patrols at night)? also places
where getting a phone out could lead to it being stolen? i've
heard that can be an issue in some areas. just wasn't sure if any
of those scenarios really deserved tagging because i didn't really
feel there was a bias there? either way just wanted to check
(sorry if this shows up as a double post, i saw there was a reply
to mailing list option i should be using, i get the impression the
first time didn't send)<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/16/18 21:52, Jmapb wrote:<br>
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<p>On the other hand, an overlay with data about various risk
factors -- crime, weather, accidents, air quality, cancer
clusters, whatever -- would be a fine feature for a 3rd party
map app to offer. But these things don't belong in the OSM
database.</p>
<p>As far as "bad areas" and "class and racial bias" go, I'll
admit that I contemplated the idea of tagging the walking paths
within some city public housing projects as access=destination,
because it reflects the reality on the ground -- generally,
people don't walk *through* the projects to get to a destination
on the other side. But it's immediately obvious that this is
bias-based interpretation: when I say "people" I mean people I
know, and OSM is for everybody, not just people I know. So
unless the paths are physically impeded, unmaintained to the
point of decay, or signed "residents only" they need to be equal
to any other walking path.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/16/2018 4:25 PM, Paul Johnson
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<div dir="auto">Other than dog toilets, this is too subjective
to be included in OSM at all, and tends to stink of class and
racial biases.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 16, 2018, 14:35 seirra <<a
href="mailto:general@sarifria.x10.bz"
moz-do-not-send="true">general@sarifria.x10.bz</a>>
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was wondering whether there was a way to tag areas that may
be <br>
risky/dangerous to walk in? i can think of a few streets
that could use <br>
the tag, was there anything of the sort that has been agreed
on?<br>
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