<div dir="ltr"><div>What areas are "dangerous" is very much a matter of race and class in the USA and likely in many other parts of the world. <br></div><div><br></div><div>For example, there are wealthy mostly-white neighborhoods in many American suburbs where a person-of-color just walking or driving through is cause for residents to (injustly) call the police. This can VERY dangerous for these people of color and has resulted in the police shooting completely innocent people. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Similarly, a plaza where many pockets are picked may be "dangerous" for unsuspecting tourists fiddling with their cameras, but be safe for locals who aren't staring at the vistas. It also may have no crime during certain hours or when a police officer happens to be monitoring the area. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Many places may seem dangerous to outsiders, but are totally comfortable for locals. In other places, no one messes with the wealthy foreign tourists, but locals are subjugated to inhumane and dangerous conditions that place them at extreme risk.<br><br></div><div>Another "risk" case would be an area where a civil war or conflict has divided who controls what land. Either side of the line of control may be incredibly risky for people affiliated with the other side but not to the supporters of those in control.<br><br></div><div>Overall, if a level or perception of risk is very dependent on who you are and what your background is, then it is going to be a fraught thing to try to map. Similarly, past crimes are not a guarantee of future crimes.<br></div><div><br></div><div>As was mentioned above, if you don't feel comfortable giving specific examples, then it is pretty impossible to have a discussion of the merits of the idea.<br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 2:57 PM, seirra <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:general@sarifria.x10.bz" target="_blank">general@sarifria.x10.bz</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>well like i said, i meant more for specific things that aren't
just generalisations where it may actively prevent you from doing
something or where it is a regular occurrence. i don't personally
see the race/class related aspect, but as previously said i
respect that others feel it is there and thus should be avoided (i
hope i'm not offending, although i respect the final decision i
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<p>there can be notable areas though, outside of what may
usually be expected<br>
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<p>hmmm i do see the point there about
racial/class bias... i was thinking more about
areas that were known crime spots/had
associated illegal activities people may want
to avoid(to the point there are regular police
patrols at night)? also places where getting a
phone out could lead to it being stolen? i've
heard that can be an issue in some areas. just
wasn't sure if any of those scenarios really
deserved tagging because i didn't really feel
there was a bias there? either way just wanted
to check (sorry if this shows up as a double
post, i saw there was a reply to mailing list
option i should be using, i get the impression
the first time didn't send)</p>
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<div dir="auto">At that point, you're just avoiding
cities in general, as crime rates tend to increase
proportionally to population density.</div>
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