<html><head></head><body>What is perceived locally as a hamlet or a suburb or a village can be organized at the local level. <br>
Who cares if the presence of a post office is the criterum to be a 'village' for a 200 people place if it's the only inhabited place 100km around? Who understand administrative levels in another country?<br>
The place key allow a hierarchy of values with words from British English. I don't think those values covers accurately perception everywhere on the globe, that's why I think the local community can have a documented opinion on how to tag.<br>
Yves <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 18 août 2018 20:29:52 GMT+02:00, djakk djakk <djakk.djakk@gmail.com> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div dir="auto">I agree with Michael, openstreetmap should reflect what the mapers see, not what the politics and the administration see. Though it is also interesting to map administrative things like borders. </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">djakk</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le sam. 18 août 2018 à 17:33, Yves <<a href="mailto:yvecai@mailbox.org">yvecai@mailbox.org</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Michael, you don't seem to take the right direction to construct a fruitful discussion with Jose :)<br>
For your first issue, did you reach the Lithuanian and Russian community?</div><div><br>
Yves <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Le 18 août 2018 16:37:28 GMT+02:00, Michael Tsang <<a href="mailto:miklcct@gmail.com" target="_blank">miklcct@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<pre class="m_-8332612844256025773k9mail">On Saturday 18 August 2018 22:10:15 HKT José G Moya Y. wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #729fcf;padding-left:1ex"> Plwase take into notice that, in some countries, the difference between<br> suburb, hamlet, town or village is not only based on population but in<br> political issues, such as self-government, also.<br> <br> When I see my hometown is defined as "aldea" (hamlet) in wikidata I always<br> got angry, because, being statistically a hamlet (~200 people), it *is*<br> politically a *village* (it elects its own town major and has its own self<br> government and budget).<br> <br> There are many such villages in Spain, (specially in the "Spanish Finland",<br> the demographic desert between Soria and Teruel) and that is a point of<br> conflict with many EU directives that request villages provide services a<br> such small villages can't afford.<br></blockquote><br>But does it look like a village from an untrained eye? i.e. what services does <br>it provide? If it really provides services that a village provide than it is <br>really a village.<br><br>If I am doing the mapping, if the settlement is small (less than 200 people) <br>AND does not provide services where a village should provide, I will mark it <br>as a hamlet despite every official designation.<br></pre></blockquote></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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