<div dir="ltr"><div>Yes , it is restricted to these vehicles. In the ground and in the traffic signs you can read VTC (Uber, Cabify). I said I don't want discussion about what is a VTC really and if should they exist. I only want to know how to map it, because in the Barcelona's harbour there are spots specifically tagged with VTC road marks, and I think they are not PSV vehicles so... what is it? How to map it? Also, in Madrid there is a lot of shared cars. How to map it? OSM's Wiki is so weak in these two terms.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks</div><div>Salut i places d'aparcament</div><div>yopaseopor<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On 21. Aug 2018, at 10:55, José G Moya Y. <<a href="mailto:josemoya@gmail.com" target="_blank">josemoya@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>VTC is how rental cars with professional driver are called
in Spain. I think the rest of the thread clarifies this: It is
the Spanish name for Uber, Cabify and other companies that
provide private transport services but are not taxis (their
cars are not equipped with taxi meter).</div>
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<div>rental with a driver is a regulated category different to
taxis in some jurisdictions, e.g. in Germany and Italy (and
probably many more, e.g. France [1]). AFAIK neither in Italy nor
in Germany Uber qualifies. In Italy they are called NCC and you
need a license, are not allowed to pick up customers nor to park
your vehicle on public space. The Italian WP says they are a
kind of public transport without routes, the German WP says they
aren’t (in Germany). Uber (and others) don’t qualify because
they don’t meet the requirements (their drivers don’t generally
have a P-license in Germany, needed for the transport of people,
they don’t typically have the NCC license in Italy, and they
don’t adhere to other rules and regulations for this kind of
transport). They are operating in a grey area, pretending the
service is assimilable to picking up hitchhikers
(commercialization of the sharing economy).</div>
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<div>If there are specific parking or resting areas for vehicles
that provide a kind of service like these, we should craft the
definitions carefully and see what we need to require in order
to be able to identify and distinguish the different classes
that we want.</div>
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Rather than "what we want" it should be "what exists".<br>
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What is being mapped? <br>
Places where these vehicles are parked? For what reason are they
parked? Is it restricted to only these kind of vehicles?<br>
Or an office where these vehicles are managed?<br>
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In at least some parts of the UK the driver needs a "<span class="m_2266780049022350071st">private hire licence" for Uber.<br>
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</span> Humm they have taxis ... but also hire cars umm what do they
call them? Arrr minicabs. <br>
The UK regards both Uber and minicabs as "private hire". How does
the UK map minicabs? <br>
<a class="m_2266780049022350071moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%<wbr>3Dtaxi#Taxi_shops.3F</a><br>
<a class="m_2266780049022350071moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3184" target="_blank">https://forum.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/viewtopic.php?id=3184</a><br>
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It is a can of worms. <br>
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