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<p>i would imagine it would be better having some data over none
though? the main thing that got me thinking about this really, was
that if we got the ability to tag this out there, could we then
for example convince link atm to use osm for their data? i figured
it was best only contacting them after we got a consensus on
tagging this. the cashback thing would make sense though right?
that's relatively constant. For the ATMs do you think it would be
better if we got a vote on it?<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/24/18 17:58, Paul Allen wrote:<br>
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<p>i can confirm this to be the case. where i work the
cashback procedure is indeed just a signature of the
receipt. As far as i know ATMs that issue £5 notes
tend to for a long time, i don't recall any here
suddenly stopping.</p>
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<div>ATMs have a finite capacity. Which means that ATMs
which serve two or more denominations may run out of one</div>
<div>denomination before the others. So £5 notes can stop
suddenly because they run out. However, a lot of the ATMs
in this</div>
<div>part of the world switched from £5/£10 to £10/£20
because inflation meant that average amount withdrawn had
increased</div>
<div>to the point they needed to be refilled too
frequently. The £5/£10/£20 machines are rare and tend to
be at banks, where</div>
<div>they can be refilled more quickly.</div>
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<div>The problem with mapping denominations is not that a
machine may run out of one denomination, that's a
temporary</div>
<div>thing. The problem is that a £5/£10 machine may be
upgraded or replaced to dispense £10/£20. Or a £10/£20
may</div>
<div>be changed to £20/£50. How often that happens depends
upon the rate of inflation in that part of the world.
It's</div>
<div>definitely useful to know, but the information may go
stale too quickly and be verified/remapped too
infrequently. I'm</div>
<div>in two minds about the utility of mapping this.<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">however people still often request
cashback due to the fact it saves the extra trip (and the
closest ATM is difficult to troubleshoot if it goes down<br>
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<div>There is one shop where I specifically request cashback
even though it has an ATM mounted in the wall outside. My</div>
<div>bank has a loyalty scheme whereby the online banking system
presents me with discounts at certain shops (as a way</div>
<div>of encouraging people to use the online banking). Every
time this shop appears I use it. And then get 5% off my</div>
<div>payment for electricity top-up, phone top-up, mains water
charges, gas bill and cashback. I wouldn't use that shop for</div>
<div>any other thing as it's a convenience store and more
expensive than the local supermarket. But whenever I can get
£50</div>
<div>cashback for £47.50 and cheaper gas, electricity and mains
water, I leap at the chance. Names intentionally</div>
<div>withheld because if everyone catches on that store brand
will withdraw from the deal. :)</div>
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