<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Temperature, I am afraid, is mine.<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Temperature" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org<wbr>/wiki/Proposed_features/Temper<wbr>ature</a></blockquote><div><br></div><div>It seemed reasonably well thought out and written. Shame it failed. It seems it might</div><div>have been approved had you said the degree symbol was optional. People could use it</div><div>if they wished but people could omit it. Parsers in renderers could cope with people using</div><div>symbols of similar appearance by simply ignoring anything that isn't a digit, a decimal point</div><div>and C or F, incidentally handling the degree symbol being optional. In fact your table of incorrect</div><div>usage shows the degree symbol on the corrected usages, so it appears even you consider it</div><div>optional.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The only thing I have a problem with is referring subjective temperatures to ambient. For me, subjective</div><div> temperatures are referred to body temperature. Is it warmer or colder than me? Especially when dealing</div><div> with water I am going to immerse body parts in. It makes even less sense to consider ambient temperature</div><div> when dealing with extreme ambient conditions. An open-air swimming pool in the middle of winter might be</div><div> warmer than ambient by several degrees in the late afternoon when the air is cooling down but the thermal</div><div> inertia of the water keeps it warm, but it's still damned cold. So I'd refer subjective temps to body temp</div><div> and add "ambient" as an objective value. Which makes tap water (in most parts of the world) cold whether</div><div> it's colder or warmer than ambient, because it's colder than me (which is why it feels cold).<br></div><br><div>Can proposals be resurrected? Or a new proposal started which is very similar but</div><div>with changes that might improve its chances of approval? In any case, I'd use the tag if I needed to</div><div> specify a temperature on something.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>