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    <p>yeah that is what i meant. i think they buy it from the network
      which serves as a 'middleman' to the generators, because the
      prices for the same company and tariff vary depending what network
      you are in over here. so presumably they pick and choose their
      power sources, and then the network charges them a fee to use them
      over that network.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/31/18 08:57, Warin wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Here there is the company that I buy
        my electricity from. They buy it from the distribution network
        that I am connected to. <br>
        So I can have a choice of who I buy from .. but my network does
        not change. <br>
        I am not certain if these firms buy it directly from the network
        .. or some other body that then sees to the network and the
        power generators as separate things. <br>
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        On 31/08/18 17:43, seirra wrote:<br>
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        <p>just something to mention about distribution companies here
          anyway, we have the network, then we have the company? so for
          example my network is UK power network, but my company is
          utilita? however in other areas (still in the uk) they would
          have a different network altogether<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/31/18 05:47, Dolly
          Andriatsiferana wrote:<br>
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              class="gmail_quote"><font color="#999999">I think this
                would be hard to maintain, and highly redundant since
                voltage won't change for a given city or even country.<br>
                Think about standards names to fill
                utilities:electricity.<br>
                Each standard comes with frequency, voltage, rating...</font></blockquote>
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            <div>Yes, I agree that in most cases voltage doesn't change
              much for a given city. But something that will change
              frequently is the source (here in Madagascar mostly from a
              distribution company, a generator, or individual solar
              panels).</div>
            <div>And maybe another good idea is to omit those voltage
              and possibly redundant details, and put sources directly
              as values on the main tag (like how most of the few
              existing electricity=* tags seem to be used). So we would
              have something like:</div>
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              <ul>
                <li>utility:electricity=yes - there is electricity
                  feeding the building but the source is not defined</li>
                <li>utility:electricity=no - there is no electricity
                  source at all</li>
                <li>utility:electricity=generator/company/solar/windmill...
                  - there is electricity and the source is known</li>
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              <div>Thanks.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">2018-08-31 1:47 GMT+03:00 Warin <span
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                    <div class="m_-2596816721825057276moz-cite-prefix">On
                      31/08/18 05:20, François Lacombe wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Le jeu. 30 août 2018 à 19:12,
                            Dolly Andriatsiferana <<a
                              href="mailto:privatemajory@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">privatemajory@gmail.com</a>>
                            a écrit :<br>
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                              <div style="font-family:times new
                                roman,serif">I like the idea of keeping
                                a namespace gathering utilities such as
                                electricity, gas, internet or other. But
                                the idea is also to be able to use a
                                namespace for the utility to provide
                                more details (source, voltage, fee...)
                                or conditions (if there's schedule in
                                availability) - and with <b>utility:electricity</b> this
                                would easily generate a complex tagging
                                of namespace under namespace, unless you
                                say it is no problem to have <b>utility:electricity:voltage=*</b> <wbr>for
                                example.</div>
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                            <div>I think this would be hard to maintain,
                              and highly redundant since voltage won't
                              change for a given city or even country.</div>
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                  </span> Most hoses in Australia have 240 v single
                  phase supplied to them. Then they have 'standard'
                  (here) GPOs of 10 Amp capacity. Some have one or more
                  higher 15 Amp capacity outlets.<br>
                  And then there are some houses that have 3 phase 415v
                  supplied to them - and they have 'standard' (here)
                  GPOs of 10 Amp capacity, possibly one or more 15 Amp
                  capacity outlets and one or more 3 phase outlets. <br>
                  <br>
                  So here you have in one neighbourhood 3 different
                  instances of electricity presence in houses. <br>
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                            <div>Agreed with Paul statement about
                              earthing system which is specific to each
                              building</div>
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                  </span> Earthing systems are usually mandated and
                  common to some bureaucratic boundaries. <br>
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