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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/09/18 21:04, Martin Koppenhoefer
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2018-09-04 12:42 GMT+02:00 Dave
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                <div>Summarizing recent comments:</div>
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                  <div>> what’s wrong with passing place? Seems to
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                <div>I thought so too until I noticed that the Wiki says
                  passing_place is used for nodes only, using logic that
                  escapes me, so I began searching for another method. I
                  also considered modifying that definition so it
                  includes ways but was reluctant to start that battle
                  even though that still seems a good solution.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">I would be in favor of adding the
          possibility to tag highway=passing_place on ways, there is
          already a tiny fraction tagged on ways (although the
          percentage currently makes it clear they are outliers).
          There's a general problem with using nodes for features like
          these: they don't have a direction, so you can't state where
          the widening takes place.</div>
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    Passing places are not long. <br>
    Most of them are just long enough to squeeze in a car and caravan
    ... just. <br>
    You are supposed to come to a complete stop to let others pass in
    either direction. <br>
    They are usually on single lane, two way roads. <br>
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    So a passing place .. you have to stop in it. You cannot keep moving
    as you would with any distance of extra lane. <br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">For the lanes approach: I would only
          use this if the place has some length (more than 5-10 meters
          you may typically find on a track) AND if there are lane
          markings (general requirement for lanes).</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Cheers,</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra">Martin<br>
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