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<p>While there is a concept of "fair use" in UK copyright law, it
has essentially nothing to do with the US concept of the same name
and in general is a solution to nothing in an OSM context.</p>
<p>Figuring out how CC BY-SA 2.0 (a licence for classical creative
works) would apply to a systematic extraction of all relevant
facts out of the wiki in to a DB is not easy and could be argued
in a number of ways. There's a reason why we changed the licence
for OSM data from CC BY-SA 2.0 to something at least half sane. <br>
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<p>For arguments sake lets assume that the wikidata version of the
wiki would actually be considered an adopted work and be licensed
on CC BY-SA 2.0 terms: we don't have a mechanism in place for loss
free change of licence for the wiki so we would need to go through
roughly the same process as with the OSM data. There would
probably be slightly less effort involved as there are a lot less
wiki editors than data editors, but the process would be quite
similar (some people would rejoice at the notion of throwing
larger pieces of the wiki away, contrary to OSM data :-)). </p>
<p>Seriously: this can be done down the road when a) the use of
wikidata in OSM has proven useful, b) and the licensing has shown
itself to be a substantial issue. There isn't really an advantage
to doing it now except stalling the exploration of what can be
done or not with wikidata in OSM.<br>
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<p>Simon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 18.09.2018 um 22:58 schrieb Yuri
Astrakhan:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Simon, at this point, there only content of the
Item namespace are short key descriptions and a few "facts"
(like the status of the proposal and the type of objects it
applies to). The linked images are licensed under their own
terms.
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<div>Would copying short description strings be considered fair
use or even re-licensable under CC0? If not, would the
community be ok to rewrite them as part of the migration to
the new system? I suspect the migration will still need to be
done by hand, because there are many links/templates/other
markup that needs to be reworked, so this might not that big
of an extra challenge.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 4:47 PM Simon Poole <<a
href="mailto:simon@poole.ch" moz-do-not-send="true">simon@poole.ch</a>>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote">a) all of the relevant wiki
content is licensed CC BY-SA 2.0, I don't<br>
see any remotely practical way to re-licence the contents at
this point<br>
in time<br>
<br>
b) if something is (actually) licensed on CC0 terms (and not
pretend<br>
CC0) the creator of the work has rescinded all rights in it
(as far as<br>
possible) and is definitely not in the position to require
distribution<br>
on CC0 terms.<br>
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Am 18.09.2018 um 18:37 schrieb peterkrauss:<br>
> Hi, veri good news!<br>
> About license, can by changed to CC0 as Wikidata?<br>
><br>
> It very important in structured data and data-interchange
to use<br>
> CC0... We are using Wikidata with government applications
because is<br>
> CC0: we can copy/paste wikidata information to a table
and publish the<br>
> table with the text of an official act (law).. The text
of the<br>
> official act MUST be CC0.<br>
><br>
> Em 2018-09-18 06:43, Yuri Astrakhan escreveu:<br>
>> Cross-posting to tagging as this new effort should
help tagging and<br>
>> metadata management the most.<br>
>><br>
>> Osmaritans,<br>
>><br>
>> as of today, OSM Wiki can store structured tag
metadata similar to<br>
>> Wikidata. In every possible language, cross-linked,
with images,<br>
>> validation rules, or anything else the community
decides to store<br>
>> there. See examples:<br>
>><br>
>> Key:bridge:movable: <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q104"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q104</a><br>
>><br>
>> Tag:bridge:movable=bascule:<br>
>> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q888"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q888</a><br>
>><br>
>> I have imported most frequent Keys from the TagInfo,
plus parsed wiki<br>
>> pages to try to get multilingual descriptions,
images, etc. Our next<br>
>> step is to add more descriptive properties,
translations,<br>
>> validations(?), better images. The structured data is
accessible via<br>
>> Lua (our new templating language), so at some point
we may want to<br>
>> replace info cards and tables(?) with the
automatically generated<br>
>> ones.<br>
>><br>
>> Help is needed: our wiki is large and multilingual.
If you can help,<br>
>> especially if you can run a wiki bot to automate some
data parsing and<br>
>> wikibase item creation, please reply. When editing,
please do not<br>
>> change or translate the "label" field. Only use
description field for<br>
>> the translation efforts, add statements, etc. If you
need new<br>
>> properties, please write at<br>
>> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_talk:Wikibase"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_talk:Wikibase</a><br>
>><br>
>> Other fun links:<br>
>><br>
>> Documentation:<br>
>> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap:Wikibase"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap:Wikibase</a><br>
>><br>
>> All items:<br>
>> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=120"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=120</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Other bridge:movable tags:<br>
>> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Item%3AQ104&namespace=120"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AWhatLinksHere&target=Item%3AQ104&namespace=120</a><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Reg-ex based validation rules:<br>
>> <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q574#P13"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q574#P13</a><br>
>><br>
>> For many Key:* pages, you will now see a link on the
left side<br>
>> "OpenStreetMap Wiki item".<br>
>><br>
>> P.S. Big thank you goes to Tom Hughes for helping to
launch this<br>
>> project!<br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
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href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br>
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