<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 4:51 PM Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"> Kevin Kenny:</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Not all Interstates *ought* to be tagged as motorways. A case in point<br>
is Interstate 93 in Franconia Notch, New Hampshire, which *ought*<br>
to be a trunk (it's a two-lane road with a centre guard rail that was added<br>
long after the initial construction.)<br>
</blockquote><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Amazing! I thought all of the Interstates had been fully converted to controlled-access divided motorways. All of the Interstates west of the Mississippi seem to be motorways.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">But 20 years ago I-5 still had a few uncontrolled intersections in the rural mountains of N California.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Still has traffic lights and a draw bridge at Washington mile 0, and the first interchange is sharp enough it probably should have a stop sign or traffic light itself. Seen quite a few trucks almost tip trying to make it off the north approach onto exit 1A for WA 14 East (and the speed limit's only 50 MPH). And going south, my very last commute out of Fort Vancouver was delayed by hours because I stopped for the traffic light, the crash barriers came down for the draw bridge, and some guy not paying attention flew past me at the stop line and ran out almost to the crash barrier before slamming on the brakes, and hit it hard enough to keep the crash barriers stuck in the fully down position...I've leaned to calling that motorway anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>However, a more obvious "should be a trunk" would be WA 500 between I 5 and 4th Plain Boulevard. <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/45.6532/-122.6175">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/45.6532/-122.6175</a> I don't realistically think any part of this deserves the motorway tag at all given that it ends on a traffic light and it's got two more traffic lights in between...like almost half of the junctions on it are at-grade and controlled by traffic signals. Every time someone fixes it, someone else goes through and breaks it back to motorway again.</div><div><br></div><div>An example of an interstate I would call trunk would be I 70 between I 68 and I 76, given that those two are the two closest junctions. Motorways should terminate at an interchange with another motorway, not an at-grade intersection...</div></div></div></div>