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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 31/10/18 12:33, Allan Mustard wrote:<br>
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<p>Some responses to Warin:<br>
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On 10/31/2018 3:45 AM, Warin wrote:<br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Errr. </font>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">By combining
Embassy with High Commission there is a decrease in
information. </font></p>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">No information is lost.
"High Commission" is an embassy by another name, between
Commonwealth members. The term "high commission" would be
preserved both in the embassy=* tag and the name=* tag.</font><br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Mappers don't do sub tags
well<br>
Example;<br>
Over 11,000 amenity=embassy<br>
Some 4,000 diplomatic=* <br>
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Less than half the 'embassies' have the tag diplomatic, yet over 95%
have a name tag. <br>
So they will use the name tag (that renders) together with the </font><br>
<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif">amenity=embassy tag (that renders) but they
are reluctant to use the diplomatic tag </font></font><font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica, Arial,
sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">(that does
not render).<br>
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I think the same will occur to these </font></font></font><font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">embassy=* tags.<br>
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Another decrease in information is consulate and consult general
... there may be more if I dig. <br>
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face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><font face="Helvetica,
Arial, sans-serif"> </font></font></font>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The VCDR does not
mention embassy. It has 'mission' and 'consular' but no
'embassy', nor 'high commission' etc. </font></p>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">As I pointed out in an
earlier post, "embassy" technically and legally consists of the
people dispatched to a foreign country on a diplomatic mission.
By convention and in vernacular use, "embassy" is used to denote
the physical structure of the diplomatic mission in which said
people operate. The VCDR is a legal document (a treaty). It
uses legal language. I have provided a great deal of detail
(much of which would be captured in the wiki, ultimately)
describing the various flavors of diplomatic missions, which
broadly speaking fall into three categories: embassies,
consulates, and other. If you doubt my word, as you seem to,
please consult with your local ministry of foreign affairs. If
you are willing to take the word of Wikipedia, its article on
diplomatic missions is pretty good: <a
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href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission#Naming"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_mission#Naming</a></font><br>
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face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Then the real fun
begins. As I have read through the various comments and
suggestions, it has occurred to me that the following
hierarchy of tags would potentially fill the bill:</font><br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">The three
values/categories (embassy, consulate, other) would have
specific subcategories. If you wanted to do a key search
in overpass turbo, it would still be possible. The
subcategories would be <br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">*
embassy=[embassy/yes, nunciature, high_commission,
interests_section, mission, delegation, branch_embassy]</font></p>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">*
consulate=[consulate/yes, consulate_general,
consular_agency, consular_office, honorary_con</font></p>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"> The above
'consolidations' ... loose information.</font></p>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">How do they lose
information? All information is preserved in the additional
tags.</font><br>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Those additional tags
probably won't be used, see above. </font><br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">If required that
consolidation can be done in rendering. <br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">But, I think, most
renders now ignore them and simply render all of them the
same. And, I think, that will continue for quite some time.
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">If a render chose
to distinguish between them then they can do so, they cannot
distinguish between an embassy and a high commission if that
information is not there. </font></p>
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I cannot conceive of a
circumstance under which anyone would want to render embassies
and high commissions differently. They are different names for
the same level of diplomatic mission (a mission covered by the
VCDR and headed by an ambassador). If a renderer wanted to
distinguish them, it could be done with an IF statement testing
the existence of the string "high_commission" in either the
name=* tag or the embassy=* tag. Same goes for an overpass
turbo search.<br>
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If there no difference then they would be the same name. <br>
Could be construed as the same kind of thing as the tag
'minor_mission'. :) <br>
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Embassies and consulate are now rendered the same, that will
probably continue, even if they have different tags. <br>
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