<div><div dir="auto">Yes I trust you ;)</div></div><div dir="auto">But where the bus network does not revolutionate (that exists) every 6 months, timetables and bus stops can be in OSM ...</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Julien « djakk »</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le sam. 3 nov. 2018 à 06:20, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div class="m_4874949450738353056moz-cite-prefix">On 03/11/18 15:55, djakk djakk wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="auto">No : bus relations are broken because of the way
          part, not because of the node part. And detailed timetables
          will be associated with the nodes. </div>
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      <div dir="auto">Breaking a bus relation by cutting a street way in
        half does not implies that the osm timetable breaks too. </div>
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      <div dir="auto">I do not see why timetables are hard to maintain ?
        Most bus lines do not change their schedules for years (even in
        big cities, Paris for example). </div>
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    Mine seem to change every 6 months.<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Because changing the schedule means buy a new bus
        and hire new drivers. <br>
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    Not here..some old buses. <br>
    Occasionally the driver makes a wrong turn .. and asks the
    passengers where to go. Sometimes that is a new route, sometimes a
    new driver. <br></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
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      <div dir="auto">Julien « djakk »</div>
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          <div dir="ltr">Le sam. 3 nov. 2018 à 04:48, Joseph Eisenberg
            <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>>
            a écrit :<br>
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          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It sounds
            like we agree: detailed timetables for every bus stop are
            too much to maintain, but simple service hours and intervals
            assigned to a route are reasonable.<br>
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            This would be very useful for map rendering, because an
            intercity bus that runs every 10 minutes is quite different
            than one that run once a day!<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 8:57 AM Graeme
                Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                      I'm siding with the idea of linking to an external
                      data-base, as maintaining this in OSM is going to
                      be a nightmare :-(<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">On Sat, 3 Nov 2018 at 08:45,
                          Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            <div dir="auto"><span style="word-spacing:1px;color:rgb(49,49,49)">Sure!
                                But how many GTFS feeds are there in the
                                whole world, compared to the number of
                                towns with public transit?</span><br>
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                          <div dir="auto"><font color="#313131"><span style="word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br>
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                          <div dir="auto"><font color="#313131"><span style="word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I’m
                                guessing that in Europe perhaps the
                                majority of transit operators publish
                                this info, but it’s not yet universal in
                                they USA, and in Asia and Africa there
                                are 10,000+ cities with no public
                                transit info beyond what is available in
                                OSM</span></font></div>
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                        <div>Somebody did mention Moovit earlier: <a href="https://moovit.com/" target="_blank">https://moovit.com/</a></div>
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                        <div>& here is Moovit Indonesia, which may
                          make sense to you but means absolutely nothing
                          to me! :-)</div>
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                        <div><a href="https://moovitapp.com/index/in/Tranportasi_Umum-Indonesia" target="_blank">https://moovitapp.com/index/in/Tranportasi_Umum-Indonesia</a></div>
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                          <div dir="auto"><font color="#313131"><span style="word-spacing:1px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">These
                                cities rarely run strict timetables, but
                                the interval (ie headway) between buses
                                and “open_hours) (ie span of service)
                                would be very useful and verifiable
                                info.</span></font></div>
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                        <div>In cases like this, when you need to know
                          that the bus to the big city should leave on
                          Monday & Thursday mornings, is a bit of a
                          different situation to 100s of routes with
                          multiple journeys, & they would be
                          doable. </div>
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                        <div>Thanks</div>
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                        <div>Graeme</div>
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