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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Paul, as Deep Throat
told Bob Woodward, "Follow the money." Who pays the rent on the
office and who pays the salary of the occupant? If the filthy
lucre comes out of the government budget, and the office is used
by someone drawing a government salary (as all executives,
legislators, and judges do, or are supposed to, at least) then
it is a government office.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">By the way the UK has
no monopoly on overlap between executive and legislative
branches. Since we Yanks adopted a Constitution in 1789 that
makes the Vice President also the President of the Senate, our
VP is technically a member of the legislative branch, and his
office budget is so appropriated. <br>
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Cheers,<br>
apm-wa<br>
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On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 3:29 AM Allan Mustard <<a
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hmmm.
Reaching back to my bachelor's degree in political
science, Parliament is also a government body, the
legislative branch of the government, so even a
member of the opposition is part of "government" in
its broadest sense. I would tag it
office=government, government=parliamentarian or
something similar. Executive, legislative, judicial
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<div>There's a can of annelids here, just waiting to be
opened.<br>
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<div>Over here in the UK, I have an MP (Member of
Parliament) representing me in the UK national</div>
<div>government. There's also the House of Lords (upper
chamber), some members of which might</div>
<div>have unofficial offices outside of parliament buildings
where they can be contacted, but a quick</div>
<div>search shows no evidence of such. Since I live in
Wales, I also have an AM (Assembly Member)</div>
<div> of the National Assembly of Wales. And, for a few
more months, I have an MEP (Member of the</div>
<div> European Parliament). Scotland and Northern Ireland
have devolved governments like Wales</div>
<div>(but different names for their assemblies and members)
but England does not (don't get me</div>
<div>started on the West Lothian question).<br>
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<div>Other member countries of the European Union will have
MEPs in addition to representatives of</div>
<div>their own national governments and some may have (like
the UK) devolved assemblies in</div>
<div>addition. The US has state and federal government.
Oh, and don't forget that technically, the US</div>
<div> has three branches of government so we have to decide
if we absorb the judiciary into this</div>
<div>(does our definition of government differ from that of
the US Constitution).<br>
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<div>It's going to take some careful thought, and many
postings here, to come up with a scheme</div>
<div>with sensible terminology that works for all those
situations. </div>
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And those examples are only the ones 'we' are aware of. I'd like
some thoughts from elsewhere.<br>
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To me these are all 'politicians' or at least serve a political
role when acting (I hope) on our behalf to represent 'us'. <br>
Don't think every situation would be happy with
'parliamentarians'. <br>
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I am not going to try and distinguish between the various levels -
upper and lower houses, federal, state, local, unions etc... <br>
That could go in the description, far too many variables around
the world for a single system I think. <br>
Lets get the first level of tagging done before contemplating a
more complex area?<br>
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