<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 7:25 AM Colin Smale <<a href="mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl">colin.smale@xs4all.nl</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p>On 2018-11-04 01:20, Paul Allen wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 12:10 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick <<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Question though (more for someone in Europe) - is a "Member of the European Parliament" elected, or just appointed by their home country? Are they a "politician" as such?</div>
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<div>Elected. They don't serve any useful purpose since the EU is run by unelected bureaucrats, but they're</div>
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<div>Paul, please keep your personal politics out of this discussion.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I simplified. From <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament</a><br></div><div><br></div><div style="margin-left:40px">Although the European Parliament has legislative power that the Council
and Commission do not possess, it does not formally possess <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legislative_initiative" class="gmail-mw-redirect" title="Legislative initiative">legislative initiative</a>, as most <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_parliaments_of_the_European_Union" title="National parliaments of the European Union">national parliaments</a> of European Union member states do.</div><div style="margin-left:40px"><br></div>And then you can go down a twisty maze of Wikipedia articles to conclude that, as parliaments go,</div><div class="gmail_quote">the European Parliament is very limited in its powers but the bureaucracy is not. Still, it counts</div><div class="gmail_quote">as elected representation for the purposes of the proposal.<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">BTW, I'm not going to insist you refrain from inferring my politics by what I wrote, merely point</div><div class="gmail_quote">out that you inferred incorrectly. And that by mentioning it at all, you perpetuated this side-issue.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">-- <br></div><div class="gmail_quote">Paul</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br> </div></div>