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<div>I think I agree with Rainer: You propose to add a "railway=" tag to a way that already has a "highway=" tag. So then why not just add "railway=tram" and delete the separate way? If this is not wanted (e.g. for rendering reasons) then I think we should use another tag instead of "railway=".</div><div><br></div>
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Am Mittwoch, 21. November 2018, 09:55:54 MEZ hat Nikulainen, Jukka K <jukka.nikulainen@helsinki.fi> Folgendes geschrieben:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Hello, and thank you all again for your comments!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>Le 20 novembre 2018 22:02:01 GMT+01:00, Rainer <<a ymailto="mailto:r.elbing@gmx.de" href="mailto:r.elbing@gmx.de">r.elbing@gmx.de</a>> a écrit :<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>Sorry that I enter the discussion late.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>First, is my understanding correct that you want to add a tag on a<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>highway that has embedded tram rails? So e.g. a bicycle router might<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>avoid such highways?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>Generally a good idea, I think. However to use<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>railway=separately_mapped<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>is not so good in my opinion, because then the way has highway=* and<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>railway=*. What should a renderer do, render a highway or render a<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>railway?<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>As the rails in the highway are a feature that describes the shape of<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>the highway similar to surface=*, I would rather use a new tag<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>embedded_rails=yes or even more precise<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>embedded_rails=tram | embedded_rails=railway.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>The latter is even worse for bicycles, because the rail grooves are<br></div><div dir="ltr">>>broader.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>><br></div><div dir="ltr">>>Best regards,<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">That's a good point, although I don't know whether the renderer is the main issue. There are lots of other tags that the renderer (rightly) ignores.<br></div><div dir="ltr">It might be construed as strange that a highway= has a rail= -tag and that the railway is, specifically, not rendered. But I'm not sure whether the semantics of my tag proposal are troublesome. What do other people think about this? The point of my tag-proposal after all is that there _is_, in fact, a pair of rails _on_ the highway.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">>Hmm, if someone want to do something with the railway key, they will look at the value.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>It's a good proposal.<br></div><div dir="ltr">>Yves<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sorry, I'm not quite sure whether this a comment for or against the rail= -tag, but thank you for the input!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Since I initiated the voting process already, could you all please cast a vote on the poroposal page ( <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tramtrack_on_highway " target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tramtrack_on_highway </a>) and add comments so that in two weeks time I could possibly mend the proposal according to the vote and possibly have a new vote on the winning tag-identification. Yves, this would also make clear whether you are against or for the current proposal.<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Thank you all very much, and please vote and add comments on the proposal page!<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Sincerely,<br></div><div dir="ltr">Jukka (Tolstoi21)<br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">_______________________________________________<br></div><div dir="ltr">Tagging mailing list<br></div><div dir="ltr"><a ymailto="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div dir="ltr"><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br></div></div>
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