<div dir="ltr">The whole thing seems pretty shaky to me.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Op ma 26 nov. 2018 om 11:46 schreef Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 26/11/2018 08:35, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:<br>
>> On 23. Nov 2018, at 17:33, Eugene Alvin Villar <<a href="mailto:seav80@gmail.com" target="_blank">seav80@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> We should be therefore able to repurpose the roles in a type=boundary relation to store information about claimed, "de facto", and "de jure" borders<br>
><br>
> can you give a definition for de jure?<br>
> Which law applies?<br>
<br>
<br>
Notwithstanding that I don't think we can repurpose roles for this, as <br>
already mentioned, I think you need to look at actual examples rather <br>
talk in the abstract.<br>
<br>
To take Western Sahara as an example, <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Western_Sahara#United_Nations" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_status_of_Western_Sahara#United_Nations</a> <br>
etc. describes the international political situation.  What would you <br>
say was the "de jure" border there and on what basis? According to <br>
MINURSO <a href="https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/mission/minurso" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/mission/minurso</a> they are <br>
"preparing for a choice", rather than directly trying to establish an <br>
independent Western Sahara.<br>
<br>
Maybe part of the "de jure" list could come from those places in <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_list_of_Non-Self-Governing_Territories#Current_entries" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_list_of_Non-Self-Governing_Territories#Current_entries</a> <br>
(but excluding those for which there is no other claimant) would help?  <br>
That names "Western Sahara", although it doesn't define its borders here.<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
<br>
Andy<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Vr gr Peter Elderson</div>