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    <p>I understand what you mean (<i>and it reminds me of my first
        arrival in India, to the neighbourood of Pahrganj in New Delhi!</i>),
      but I still think place=neighbourood on the way identifing the
      gantry is wrong. Please let me explain why.</p>
    <p>A neighbourood occupy an "area", so you should either define that
      area with a polygon, or, if you don't have the information/time to
      do that, you should put a node "close to that area".</p>
    <p>I think that in your case you could define the gantry as I
      suggested (<i>or in a similar way</i>) and then add a node with
      place=neighbourood very close to the gantry. For routing you'll
      have the same (<i>positive</i>) effects.</p>
    <p>It also seems that the wiki have the same idea:
      place=neighbourood should not be used on ways. Please check that
      on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aplace%3Dneighbourhood">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aplace%3Dneighbourhood</a><br>
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    <p>Cheers!</p>
    <p>Sergio</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-11-30 19:19, Tod Fitch wrote:<br>
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      One of the listed values of the place tag is “neighbourhood”. And,
      in the one case where I mapped such a overhead sign, it was the
      entrance to a neighborhood. It was, in fact, the location you’d be
      taken to by the motor-rickshaw from the metro station when you
      gave your destination and was part of the address I was given to
      reach the residence in question.
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      <div class="">But that was in another country than I live in. In
        my own country, it is much more likely that a development would
        have a sign to the side of a main way in. Mostly there for
        advertising. Nobody, or at least almost nobody, would ever use
        it to give directions or use it as a destination itself.</div>
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      <div class="">So I guess the use of a place=neighbourhood tag
        might be dependent on the local situation. Is this the landmark
        the locals use for giving directions? If so, then
        place=neighbourhood is more likely to be usable by a routing
        engine than usage=welcome_sign.<br class="">
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        <div class="">Cheers!</div>
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              <div class="">On Nov 30, 2018, at 9:18 AM, Sergio Manzi
                <<a href="mailto:smz@smz.it" class=""
                  moz-do-not-send="true">smz@smz.it</a>> wrote:</div>
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                  <p class="">No, wait, I disagree with the
                    "place=neighbourhood" thing!</p>
                  <p class="">See: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                      href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Places"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Places</a>
                    and <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                      href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place</a></p>
                  <p class="">Cheers!</p>
                  <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-11-30 18:10,
                    Sergio Manzi wrote:<br class="">
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                    <p class="">Seems very good to me.</p>
                    <ul class="">
                      <li class="">already used: <a
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                          href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made=gantry"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/man_made=gantry</a></li>
                      <li class="">proposal exist: <a
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                          href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gantry"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gantry</a></li>
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                    <p class="">In the proposal I don't like very much
                      the way to indicate clearence,
                      maxheight:physical=* (<i class="">what? opposed
                        to...  maxheight:virtual=*, maybe?</i>), but
                      that's another story...<br class="">
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                    <p class="">I think you found the right key, bravo!</p>
                    <p class="">Sergio</p>
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                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-11-30 17:53,
                      Tod Fitch wrote:<br class="">
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                      <div class="">I’ve mapped by placing a way across
                        the road tagged with:</div>
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                      <div class="">man_made=gantry</div>
                      <div class="">name=“whatever”</div>
                      <div class="">place=neighbourhood</div>
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                      <div class="">I suppose one could add some sort of
                        tagging indicating the vertical clearance that
                        might be of use for routing.</div>
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