<div dir="ltr">description - is used for other purposes already - it lets you describe an object in free manner which can be several sentances long.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в 12:50, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_-3166457355157361458moz-cite-prefix">On 06/12/18 20:25, Eugene Podshivalov
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<div dir="ltr">Let me clarify the meaning of those Russian words
<div>"пруд" - is usually a natural but modified by a man body
of water which is smaller than lake. this is usually
translated as "pond"</div>
<div>"копанка" - is a very small body of water, escavated by
an individual family for private fishing, usually of a
square shape about 10x20 meters in size.</div>
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<div>Making additional subcategories makes sense only when
they are commonly recognized.</div>
<div>Adding language sepecific tag would work better here in
my mind:</div>
<div>water=pond + water:ru=копанка</div>
<div>this way we preserve the generic categorization and let
it be expanded for local purpose.</div>
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<div>With regards to "озеро" (lake) it is even more
complecated. In Russian we may call "озеро" both natural and
man-modified bodies of water.</div>
<div>So both water=lake and water=pond can be called "озеро".</div>
<div>The afore-mentioned solution could solve it:</div>
<div>water=lake + water:ru=озеро</div>
<div>water=pond + water:ru=озеро</div>
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<div>Another solution as suggested in the original post is to
introduce some generic (category independent) tag like
"name:prefix/postfix" or "type:<lang>" etc. for such
things.</div>
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Please.. not 'type'.<br>
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How about using 'description' ... <br>
description:ru=копанка<br>
description:ru=пруд<br>
description:ru=озеро<br>
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???<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в
04:17, Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>>: <br>
For example, in America we can call a waterway=stream a
“brook”, “creek”, “run” and several other things. These
waterways will be tagged waterway=stream or =river
(depending on size) with name=“Bull Run”, =“Walker Creek”,
=“Johnson’s Brook”, etc. <br>
We don’t use waterway=creek or waterway=run because there is
no consistent difference between these. In fact in Standard
British English a Creek is often a tidal channel in a salt
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<div>If you put “brook”, “creek”, “run” etc. in the name field
you will get tautology in search results like: "stream Blue
creek". So either all objects should have their category in
the name field and the search engine will not add anything
or no objects should have category in the name fields and
the search engine will take the category from some other
field and append it to name.</div>
<div>E.g. assume you have name=Blue + waterway=stream +
waterway:en=creek, you search for "Blue" and get "Blue
creek".</div>
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<div dir="ltr">чт, 6 дек. 2018 г. в 10:26, Johnparis <<a href="mailto:okosm@johnfreed.com" target="_blank">okosm@johnfreed.com</a>>:<br>
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<div>Thanks, Michal. Following that link led me to:</div>
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<div>shop=butcher + butcher=pork <br>
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<div>which specifically mentions charcuterie. Presumably
covers this too.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>John<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 8:18 AM Michal
Fabík <<a href="mailto:michal.fabik@gmail.com" target="_blank">michal.fabik@gmail.com</a>>
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at 10:03 PM Sergio Manzi <<a href="mailto:smz@smz.it" target="_blank">smz@smz.it</a>> wrote:<br>
> I have the same problem for some shop categories
which are not part of the US/UK tradition: an Italian
"salumeria" [1] is in no way similar to a US "deli"
shop...<br>
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Hi, the wiki specifically mentions this and suggests a
different way<br>
of tagging American delis:<br>
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Ddeli" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Ddeli</a><br>
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