<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">To be clear, it is not my proposal and I cannot even ride a motorcycle. <div><br></div><div>The mapper making the wholesale changes, ti-lo/Rtfm, should submit a proposal, period, since it appears the issue involves wholesale change of existing tags, not introduction of new tags.</div><div><br></div><div>It may not be a "requirement" but it is the polite or communally proper thing to do. If I did it, he can do it.</div><div><br></div><div>cheers,</div><div>apm</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 8:01 PM Dave Swarthout <<a href="mailto:daveswarthout@gmail.com">daveswarthout@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I have been contacted at least twice by user:ti-lo about changing the tagging of several motorcycle shops I've added over the years. He is a bit of an evangelist for the new scheme yet has always been polite while asking to change my tags. Recently, I checked to see if the tags were documented in the Wiki and learned that the "new tagging" scheme aligned with his recommendations. I like the scheme and have always said, sure, go ahead never thinking that the Wiki had been modified by him (as user:Rtfm) to push the scheme he favors.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't think it's good policy to discourage mappers from coming up with a new tagging scheme. However, such wholesale changes should be discussed fully here and perhaps elsewhere but, as someone else pointed out, trying to get anything approved by the tagging list is a long struggle that often ends in stalemate. I have often been frustrated by the endless deliberations that occur on this list when even a relatively small change in tagging has been suggested. <br><br></div><div>Consequently, my opinion about what to do is mixed. Certainly, a full discussion is warranted before going ahead.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Dave<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 5:48 AM Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 06/01/19 06:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:<br>
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> sent from a phone<br>
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>> On 5. Jan 2019, at 08:25, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> Not mandatory in OSM ... "Any tags you like".<br>
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> you can use any tags you like in your mapping, but that doesn’t imply “changing” tags. It is one thing adding motorcycle:* tags, and another removing “old style” tags.<br>
> Or changing the value of a “standard key” from something well known to something “new” (not established) (provided the well known value applies according to common understanding).<br>
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Thanks for reading the words and not adding to there meaning :)<br>
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I too do not encourage changing current tags to some other tag. Only with depreciated tags would I encourage there replacement with more current tag use.<br>
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> And it doesn’t imply changing the tagging recommendations in the wiki unilaterally. You can do this on your user page, but not in the common space.<br>
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> I agree with Allan’s proposition and ask him to set up a proposal.<br>
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Rather than 'set up a proposal' I would ask the contributor (and that is not Allen) to discuss the matter here.<br>
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Possible problems are that the contributor does not have good English skills and maybe reactant to enter into that problem area combined with the problem of tagging.<br>
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