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<div>>Possibly a separate page again for shop=motorhome? (I
think that would be a good coverall term?) <br>
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<div>I would prefer that but it's an American term. We might
as well just stay with caravan. Plus, I do think the tag
you're proposing could, with enough thought, be made to work
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There is a difference.<br>
Caravans attach to a motor vehicle for moment. <br>
Motor homes/campers are self propelled. <br>
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<div>There was a thread just a while ago on this list
discussing ti-lo's solo initiative to upgrade
motorcycle=shop tagging. It was/is a sensible scheme that
integrated the functions of dealer, parts shop and
accessories shop by using subtags to make the distinctions.
(See the Services section: <a
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmotorcycle#Services_tags"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:shop%3Dmotorcycle#Services_tags</a>).
His scheme was criticized because he didn't discuss it fully
enough on this list but aside from that, I liked the idea.
The main tag and all subtags except those that already stand
on their own, begin with the same keyword, motorcycle, and
proceed from there, adding as much detail as desired or
known. <br>
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<div>Hence, one might have <br>
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<div>caravan:parts=yes</div>
<div>caravan:accessories=yes/no<br>
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<div>caravan:sales=yes/no</div>
<div>caravan:type=type_a/type_b/type_c/fifth_wheel/trailer<br>
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type? caravan:classification=* ? classifications could be local
legal ones. Other things are descriptions .. and OSM has a tag for
that. <br>
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<div>caravan:propulsion=trailer/yes/solar_powered (wishful
thinking) [also gas/diesel?]<br>
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I say again, caravans are not self propelled - they need to be
pulled along by something. <br>
Oxford Dictionary: <span class="ind">A vehicle equipped for living
in, typically towed by a car. <br>
Origin </span><span class="ind">Late 15th century (in caravan
(sense 2)): from French caravane, from Persian kārwān. The sense
‘covered horse-drawn wagon’ dates from the early 19th century.</span>
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<div>The caravan:types are well-known to anyone shopping for
RVs (in America for sure but Europe or Asia, I dunno) but
the tag is optional. Use it for fine-grained tagging, ignore
it otherwise.<br>
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In the UK smaller 'back' roads are narrow - Toyota Landcrusiers are
seen as too wide, an American small Winabago is UK huge. <br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 1:01 PM Graeme
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 at 13:06, Dave
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also for a shop that sells only caravan parts and
accessories but not caravans.</div>
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<div>No, I've tried to set it up selling (dealer) as well
as parts, repair & rental. Any other options you can
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<div dir="ltr">Also, I see you've decided not to be
specific about the type or style of caravan sold. I
would think caravan:style or caravan:class might be
useful to distinguish between type_a, type_c,
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<div>Couple of people have suggested that & I've asked
some questions about "how" but no feedback yet </div>
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<div>Possibly something like
caravan:type=caravan / motorhome / Winnebago
/ camper trailer etc, but then you get to
the problem of what is difference between a
camper van, motorhome & Winnebago?</div>
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<div>motorised=yes / no?</div>
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<div>propulsion=towed / motorised?</div>
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<div>Possibly a separate page again for shop=motorhome?
(I think that would be a good coverall term?)</div>
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<div>But if we use a separate page, won't you have the
same problem that you'll only be able to find one or
the other?</div>
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<div>As I mentioned earlier, if we had </div>
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<div>caravan:type=caravan / motorhome / camper_trailer</div>
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<div>would you be able to search for the type you want? </div>
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<div>So, any thoughts?</div>
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<div>Graeme</div>
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<div>PS How you going using Warin's suggestion to create
pages? :-)</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Dave Swarthout<br>
Homer, Alaska<br>
Chiang Mai, Thailand<br>
Travel Blog at <a href="http://dswarthout.blogspot.com"
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