<div dir="ltr"><div>Nope, a mobile home is not the same as an RV or travel_trailer. Have a look at the illustrations on the Wikipedia page. It is, as the Wikipedia definition says, a prefabricated structure meant for permanent living. It has wheels, hence the mobile part of its name but it's moved very infrequently, sometimes only from the factory to its location inside of a, here's another American term, trailer park.</div><div><br></div><div>An aside: As I consider this thread and the problems we're having with terminology I came to the realization that most countries don't have such things as we do in the U.S. Some of the motorhomes you see on American highways are behemoths based on a full-size bus chassis, powered by big rear-mounted diesel engines. I'd be willing to bet that no other country has anything even approaching the sheer size of these things. And they are quite common here. And are they expensive? Yep. 100 to 200K USD and up.</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, how best to describe the plethora of such vehicles, in the U.S. especially where they are so common, in one word? The term motorhome fits such monsters and works for many other smaller vehicles like your garden variety Winnebagos and extended van conversions but cannot describe unpowered trailers or, in British vernacular, caravans. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Where do we go from here?<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 6:43 AM Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Wow, so much for me naively thinking that
caravan was a universal word! Should know
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<div>However, there does appear to be a better
term. From <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorhome" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorhome</a><br>
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<div style="margin-left:40px">Motorhomes are part
of the much larger associated group of <b>mobile
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<div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_home</a>:
"<span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">A </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">mobile
home</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> (also </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">trailer</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">, </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">trailer
home</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">, </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">house
trailer</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">, </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">static
caravan</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">, </span><b style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">residential
caravan</b><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">) is
a </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefabrication" title="Prefabrication" style="background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" target="_blank">prefabricated</a><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">structure,
built in a factory on a permanently attached chassis
before being transported to site (either by being
towed or on a trailer). Used as permanent </span><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home" title="Home" style="background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px" target="_blank">homes</a><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">, or
for holiday or temporary accommodation, they are
left often permanently or semi-permanently in one
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It would cover those things that slide in and out of utility
vehicles and act as accommodation. <br>
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I think the 'mobile home' is an acceptable term to cover the lot.
Why is it unacceptable? <br>
The emphasise on 'permanent' I think is wrong, but there is enough
vagueness to accept that 'mobile' means mobile. <br>
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