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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/01/19 18:42, Warin wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/01/19 18:37, Mateusz Konieczny
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">Date: Jan 23, 2019, 8:31 AM<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">Subject: Re: [Tagging]
Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to
map?<br>
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<div style="16px">Jan 23, 2019, 4:49 AM by <a class=""
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<div class="">On 23/01/19 07:37, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:<br>
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<div style="16px">The end to this madness is for
renders to recognise that the landuse=forest needs
to be rendered differently from natural=wood.<br>
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<div style="16px">The essential difference between the
two is that landuse must have some human benefit, a
produce, and a clear way of doing that is to add the
rendering of a axe to the tree.<br>
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<div style="16px">(1) in a typical rendering this
distinction is completely unimportant<br>
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rendering<br>
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<div style="16px">(2) other people have different
mismatching ideas what is the<br>
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<div style="16px">(3) there is no consistent difference
in how natural=wood and landuse=forest are used<br>
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<div style="16px">by mappers<br>
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<div style="16px">If the is no difference between the two
then there will be no problem depreciating
landuse=forest.<br>
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"there many, many opinions how natural=wood and
landuse=forest differ and<br>
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distinction between this tags useless" is not the same
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<div style="16px">And landuse=forest is used more than
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href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=forest"
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moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=forest</a><br>
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landuse=forestry. <br>
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not using "forestry" to mean "using forest to<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">People within OSM are
using landuse=forestry to mean that it provides some produce
for human benefit.<br>
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about the human use of that land.<br>
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href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse"
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<div style="16px" text-align="left"> "used to describe the
primary use of land by humans. "<br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left"> It is not what is there
.. but what the use is by humans. <br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left"> If there is concrete
there, or a swamp .. that does not determine what the use
is. <br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left"> The concrete could for a
roadway, or a sports court. <br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left"> The swamp could be a
native reserve, or a waste water filtration system. <br>
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<div style="16px" text-align="left">It is not changing that
attempting to use landuse=forestry for "forest and associated
area <br>
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wood" mismatches with <g class="gr_ gr_153 gr-alert gr_gramm
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What definition of the word 'forestry' are you referring? <br>
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And a follow up question :)<br>
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How are areas zoned/set aside to produce timber from trees to be
tagged? <br>
The trees are not always there - like crops on a farm field. <br>
So tagging it for trees is wrong - like tagging a farmers field for
plants that are not always there. <br>
It is a land use - there is a produce for the land and that produce
is for human use, so it meets the key landuse requirements. <br>
So what value is suitable for these areas? <br>
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