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<div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Date: Jan 23, 2019, 8:31 AM<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">From: 61sundowner@gmail.com<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">To: matkoniecz@tutanota.com<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Subject: Re: [Tagging] Forest parcel with other landcover (scrub, scree…): how to map?<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div class="">On 23/01/19 17:52, Mateusz Konieczny
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">Jan 23, 2019, 4:49 AM by <a class="" href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div class="">On 23/01/19 07:37, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="16px">Jan 21, 2019, 12:03 AM by <a class="" href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px">The end to this madness is for renders to
recognise that the landuse=forest needs to be rendered
differently from natural=wood.<br></div><div style="16px">The essential difference between the two
is that landuse must have some human benefit, a produce,
and a clear way of doing that is to add the rendering of a
axe to the tree.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px"><div style="16px"><div style="16px"><div style="16px"><br></div></div></div></div><div style="16px"><div style="16px">(1) in a typical
rendering this distinction is completely unimportant<br></div></div><div style="16px">or at least not worth different rendering<br></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">(2) other people have different mismatching
ideas what is the<br></div><div style="16px">"real" difference between natural=wood and
landuse=forest<br></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">(3) there is no consistent difference in how
natural=wood and landuse=forest are used<br></div><div style="16px">by mappers<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">If the is no difference
between the two then there will be no problem depreciating
landuse=forest.<br></div></blockquote><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px"><div style="16px"><div style="16px"><div style="16px" text-align="left">First of all: "there many,
many opinions how natural=wood and landuse=forest differ and<br></div></div><div style="16px">some people think that his
makes distinction between this tags useless" is not the same
as<br></div><div style="16px">"there is no difference".<br></div></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">And landuse=forest is used
more than three million times<br></div><div style="16px"><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=forest" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=forest</a><br></div><div style="16px"><br></div></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px">If there is no produce than
it is not landuse=forestry. <br></div><div style="16px"><br></div></blockquote><div style="16px"><div style="16px"><div style="16px"><div style="16px" text-align="left">Note that many are not
using "forestry" to mean "using forest
to<br></div></div><div style="16px"><div style="16px">produce wood".<br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">People within OSM are using landuse=forestry to mean that it
provides some produce for human benefit.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> The key 'landuse' is about the human use of that land.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> <a class="" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse</a><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> "used to describe the primary use of land by humans.
"<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> It is not what is there .. but what the use is by humans. <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> If there is concrete there, or a swamp .. that does not determine
what the use is. <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> The concrete could for a roadway, or a sports court. <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> The swamp could be a native reserve, or a waste water filtration
system. <br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">It is not changing that attempting to use landuse=forestry for "forest and associated area <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">that is used to produce wood" mismatches with <g class="gr_ gr_153 gr-alert gr_gramm gr_inline_cards gr_run_anim Grammar only-ins doubleReplace replaceWithoutSep" id="153" data-gr-id="153">meaning</g> of word forestry.<br></div> </body>
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