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<div style="16px" text-align="left">I admit that I am putting it on MP, despite that it would be more correct to<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">put in an outer way with some tagging indicating that it refers to this entire forest.<br><br>Unfortunately, I have no good idea for tagging it properly. <br><br>place=locality is rather for small places<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">landuse=logging, landuse=forestry would be also incorrect in nearly all cases<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">natural=forest, natural=wood - well, there is a reason why there is MP here<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Maybe place=forest would fit well?<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">And in some cases like village or town inside forest second MP would be needed. <br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Jan 23, 2019, 8:55 AM by marc.gemis@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div style="16px" text-align="left">And where do you put the name of the forest/wood ? On the MP or on the<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">outer way ?<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"> I would think on the outer way, as the scrub is part of the named<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">area. But then I have an outer way with only a name tag. Is that<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">correct ?<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">m.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 8:51 AM Warin <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">On 23/01/19 18:25, Peter Elderson wrote:<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">> The rendering itself is a github issue of course, but it shoud be<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">> based on consistent tagging, which is a tagging list concern.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">> I slipped up in the contradicting paragraphs... I meant, an area<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">> landCOVER=grass within a landUSE=forest.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">> Main point is, let's recognise / support the growing use of the<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">> landcover key for the three main values: trees, grass and scrub. Then,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">> bump the issues with the main renderers and editors. How to do that is<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">> not for this list, you are absolutely right about that.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">> Only after that step, rediscuss the landuse key.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">This developed from a simple question of how to map a tree area that has<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">holes in it of scrub etc.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">A fairly simply question?<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">The simple answer is to map the tree area as a relation with;<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">natural=wood (even if not 'natural' as OSM acepts that the key 'natural'<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">encompass things that many regard as not 'natural'), type multipolygon,<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">The surrounding closed way with the role outer.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Then place simple closed way/s for the hole/s tagged natural=scrub as<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">appropriate .. and then place them in the relation with the role 'inner'.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">------------------------<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">The problem came the simple use of the word forest!<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">There is no need to wait for other steps to use the tag<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">landuse=forestry, it does not conflict with 'landcover' or 'natural'<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">tagging.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Many keys and values are developed in parallel.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">_______________________________________________<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Tagging mailing list<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">_______________________________________________<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Tagging mailing list<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><a rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div> </body>
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