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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/02/19 23:46, Ulrich Lamm wrote:<br>
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<div>Am 08.02.2019 um 20:37 schrieb Ulrich Lamm:</div>
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0px; font-size: medium; ">OSM is already used like a
quallity product.<br>
We have to provide that quality, now, or we have to warn
people that they should not use OSM until ten years later.<br>
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If / As official databases provide their contents under
Creative Commons licenses to enable free use for everybody,<br>
it is a lie to say, OSM cannot use them.<br>
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I have tried to show the way to prevent OSM from isolation
by its own fault:<br>
We have to distinguish between those contents (geometries),
on which we cannot meet Creative Commons conditions,<br>
and those contents (definitions, names, results of
scientific investigations) on which we can meet Creative
Commons conditions, easliy.<br>
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<div>Let us face the background interests.</div>
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<div>The problem of using official reference informations that
are available for free use</div>
<div>is not a problem between official databases and the community
of volunteer mappers,</div>
<div>working for free on a collection of geographic informations
that can be used for free.</div>
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<div>It is a problem between the free community with its free
product</div>
<div>and some people who exploit this free collection (and the
unpaid work of thousands of volunteers) for commercial use.</div>
<div>Some people that hold powerful positions in the community
live from selling applications of our volunteer work.</div>
<div>Certainly, some of these commercial applications are a
surplus value in relation to the free applications.</div>
<div>But that is not our problem. Our intention is to get reliable
free information as a revenue for free work.</div>
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<div>If the most reliable informations are references that are
excluded from commercial exploitation, </div>
<div>unless the exploiter has an individual license contract with
the provider of the reference data,</div>
<div>the commercial exploiter has the choice either to sell a
product without informations that are available for free,</div>
<div>or he has to pay. </div>
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Your method of including CC will mean not more use by commercial
firms. <br>
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Here is a though for you. <br>
Take OSM and combine with CC sources and then provide that as FSM
(Free Street Map). <br>
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