<div dir="ltr">I think most people will be against having variable roles in the route relations.<div><br></div><div>Polyglot</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 8:04 PM santamariense <<a href="mailto:imagens.sm@gmail.com">imagens.sm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> I also created a proposal, but I knew in advance it wouldn't be practical<br>
> to duplicate full GTFS functionality in OSM.<br>
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Well, this is not a so simple question. There're many countries around<br>
the world that have no GTFS. And, it's just what happens to us in<br>
Brazil. We are mapping intercity bus routes in the state where I live.<br>
So, if we have this data in OSM, maybe we are going to be the pioneer.<br>
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Do not map GTFS in OSM for me sounds like do not map building in city<br>
X because it's available in town hall.<br>
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> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_timetables" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_timetables</a><br>
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I didn't follow the discussion but this proposal is at least helpfull.<br>
Why do not map xx:xx in the same route relation? Role examples:<br>
stop@00:20, stop_exit_only@03:45, stop_entry_only@00:25-00:31, and for<br>
bus stops where the timetable is approximated (like in Brazil) use "~"<br>
for the usual times, examples: stop@~00:27-00:30,<br>
stop_exit_only@~00:46<br>
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> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport_agencies" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport_agencies</a><br>
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It has gone to my wiki watchlist so I can follow it in its developing.<br>
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> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_schedules/Departures" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_schedules/Departures</a><br>
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This proposal is as simple as possible and it's better to be so.<br>
However it doesn't cover all situations. For example, stops that have<br>
checkpoint, in another words, that have exact time to arrive and/or<br>
leave intermediaries stops. Many times only duration=* cannot be<br>
enough to accurate times in intermediaries stops.<br>
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LeifRasmussen, what do you think about to attach "duration in roles"<br>
to complement the proposal? It is supposed to be used not in all<br>
stops, but only in those that have exact time to arrive/leave, or at<br>
least a well known usual time.<br>
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