<div dir="ltr">Regarding the proposal, feel free to try and apply it on your bus routes. And if you mapped say a hundred, you can even change the proposal's status and bring it up for a vote. Be prepared for quite a bit of resistance though, but for what it's worth, I'm likely to vote in favour. The main point people will have against it, is that it is data that is very hard to maintain and keep up-to-date.<div><br></div><div>Also, maybe you find flaws in it, so if you can improve on it, go for it.</div><div><br></div><div>Once I have a bit more time, I'll probably move forward with the agency proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>Polyglot</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 8:04 PM santamariense <<a href="mailto:imagens.sm@gmail.com">imagens.sm@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> I also created a proposal, but I knew in advance it wouldn't be practical<br>
> to duplicate full GTFS functionality in OSM.<br>
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Well, this is not a so simple question. There're many countries around<br>
the world that have no GTFS. And, it's just what happens to us in<br>
Brazil. We are mapping intercity bus routes in the state where I live.<br>
So, if we have this data in OSM, maybe we are going to be the pioneer.<br>
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Do not map GTFS in OSM for me sounds like do not map building in city<br>
X because it's available in town hall.<br>
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> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_timetables" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_timetables</a><br>
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I didn't follow the discussion but this proposal is at least helpfull.<br>
Why do not map xx:xx in the same route relation? Role examples:<br>
stop@00:20, stop_exit_only@03:45, stop_entry_only@00:25-00:31, and for<br>
bus stops where the timetable is approximated (like in Brazil) use "~"<br>
for the usual times, examples: stop@~00:27-00:30,<br>
stop_exit_only@~00:46<br>
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> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport_agencies" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Public_transport_agencies</a><br>
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It has gone to my wiki watchlist so I can follow it in its developing.<br>
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> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_schedules/Departures" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Public_transport_schedules/Departures</a><br>
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This proposal is as simple as possible and it's better to be so.<br>
However it doesn't cover all situations. For example, stops that have<br>
checkpoint, in another words, that have exact time to arrive and/or<br>
leave intermediaries stops. Many times only duration=* cannot be<br>
enough to accurate times in intermediaries stops.<br>
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LeifRasmussen, what do you think about to attach "duration in roles"<br>
to complement the proposal? It is supposed to be used not in all<br>
stops, but only in those that have exact time to arrive/leave, or at<br>
least a well known usual time.<br>
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