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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-02-26 15:19, Martin
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Di., 26. Feb. 2019 um
13:52 Uhr schrieb Fernando Trebien <<a
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9:00 PM Sergio Manzi <<a href="mailto:smz@smz.it"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">smz@smz.it</a>>
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I think the official categories in Codice della Strada
should probably<br>
be assigned to OSM's classes by closely matching the
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<p>Hi!</p>
<p>The above citation could be mistakenly taken as mine, but that's
not the case...</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Sergio</p>
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<div>not at all, we already have classified all of our roads
according to wiki, surroundings/context, local knowledge
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<div>If we are to add "Codice della Strada" classes, it
should not influence the highway class, it should be an
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<div>We might also decide to tag the Italian network classes
explicitly. I'm not an expert in this field, but from a
quick internet lookup it appears in Italy there are 4
classes of (kind of) movement: a - primary network
(transit), b - principal network (distribution), c -
secondary network (penetration), d - local network
(access).</div>
<div>For the specific characteristics you must take into
account whether the road is inside or outside of a
built-up area (this is generally an interesting
information for which we do not explicitly cater in
general with our tagging, but which should probably be
introduced).</div>
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<div>When planning a road you must additionally take into
account:</div>
<div>- entity of movement (median distance that the vehicles
travel)</div>
<div>- territorial connecting function (national,
interregional, provincial, local)</div>
<div>- traffic components (light vehicles, heavy vehicles,
motorvehicles, pedestrians, etc.)<br>
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<div>You can find more information in this ministrial
decrete from 2001 which was issued after the new 1992 CdS
law: <a
href="http://www.mit.gov.it/mit/mop_all.php?p_id=1983"
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.mit.gov.it/mit/mop_all.php?p_id=1983</a></div>
<div>(this is mainly thought as a reference for the Italian
mappers, I do not expect the others to read through 100
pages in Italian).<br>
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<div>The CdS classes are only part of the entire picture,
e.g. the same CdS class (example "B Strada extraurbana
principale") may be used for a "movement a" or "movement
b" kind of road.<br>
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Italians make sense of the map.</blockquote>
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<div>really, the sense does not come from classifications
mostly, it is the refs and names that make the information
locally relevant. Joe Mapuser really doesn't need all the
detail information typically, because we have already
conveniently summarized everything into a single highway
class ;-)</div>
<div>Still, we should not deny the addition of detail, but
it likely doesn't mean we can set up a lookup-table CdS to
highway class and be done.</div>
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Except for the official categories in Codice della Strada,
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such attributes of the road should go into specific tags.</blockquote>
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<div>if there is a clear 1:1 correlation between CdS and
OSM, e.g. motorways, we already have that information in
the map (well, besides we do not have specific tags yet
for motorways in built-up settings).<br>
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rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> For example,<br>
in Brazil, the administrative responsibility is
represented by the<br>
road's reference code, so it can be easily identified from
ref=* tags<br>
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<div>same in Germany, Italy and likely many other places
indeed.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Cheers,<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Martin<br>
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