<div dir="auto">I think we should add a new type of footway, and then render it the way people like. For example, footway=alley. Wikipedia page for alley has photos of exactly the old town streets as I believe you are talking about. That way service=alley is reserved for American type alleys for garbage trucks, and footway=alley is reserved for old town streets.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I looked at tag info, there are 102 footway=alley tags already.<br><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The war plan looks like this:</div><div dir="auto">1. create a wiki page for footway=alley</div><div dir="auto">1. add footway=alley to old towns that managed to keep highway=footway tags,</div><div dir="auto">2. reach a critical mass of tags, add rendering that is similar to pedestrian,</div><div dir="auto">3. retag pedestrian tags.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Janko</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 27, 2019, 14:01 Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I created <a href="https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/17391" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/17391</a> and<br></div><div><a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5991" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/5991</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Maybe this is a good idea, maybe it will be implemented and maybe it will help to keep control<br></div><div>over situation.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Feb 26, 2019, 3:30 PM by <a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote class="m_2728149796293251561tutanota_quote" style="border-left:1px solid #93a3b8;padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr">Am Di., 26. Feb. 2019 um 14:40 Uhr schrieb Sergio Manzi <<a href="mailto:smz@smz.it" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">smz@smz.it</a>>:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>... and not only cycleways: have a look here, where I live: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.4364/12.3334" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=15/45.4364/12.3334</a><br></div><div> <br></div><div> All are "highway=pedestrian", at the same level, but believe me: they are not!<br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Venice is a globally unique (or maybe almost unique) exception anyway, but what we currently have there is the result of people reclassifying all the footways as pedestrian roads, even if they are 50 cm wide. I have started in the past several attempts to open a discussion on this, but it felt like Don Quixote. See this as an example: <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/488627565/history" rel="noopener noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/488627565/history</a> I have surveyed it myself, like many others, where I began to reclassify the very narrow footpaths from pedestrian to footway, but I am not local and people destroy the finer grained distinction of footway and pedestrian as soon as you add them, I guess they do not want the red dots. It is unfortunate, because it makes the Venice map much harder to read and less useful. If you are local, please try to improve the situation, we do not need new tags, it would be sufficient to apply the existing ones consistently rather than indiscriminately.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div><div>Martin<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div> </div>
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