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<div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Mar 25, 2019, 4:00 PM by pla16021@gmail.com:<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, 25 Mar 2019 at 14:36, Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class=""><blockquote class="" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>In situations matching your description I think that either shop=supermarket or shop=country_store would fit.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>There used to be a shop near me which wouldn't really match country_store, convenience,<br></div><div>variety, or hardware. It sold a bizarre mix of things. No food whatsoever, so not convenience<br></div><div>or supermarket. No farm or garden equipment or clothing, so not country_store. Definitely not<br></div><div>cheap (if anywhere else sold something you wanted this place would be more expensive) so<br></div><div>not really variety.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Like I said, it sold a bizarre mix of things. Kitchen utensils and equipment (but very little<br></div><div>electrical stuff). Hardware like letterboxes, letterbox draught excluders, wood screws (not a<br></div><div>wide selection), door bolts. Dustbins. Firewood. Brushes and brooms. I rarely went in there<br></div><div>(after seeing the prices the first time I went in) but there was all kinds of other stuff I barely<br></div><div>remember. Two local newspapers reporting its closure described it as a "hardware and<br></div><div>household goods" store, but the local pound shop carries a bigger range of hardware than it<br></div><div>did, and neither match up to a proper hardware shop like B&Q (or even B&M).<br></div><div><br></div><div>The closest fit would be general, and even that is a very poor fit (there were no foodstuffs). But<br></div><div>that's the closest match to "household goods and other random stuff."<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left">I am considering shop=random_stuff<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">I am not sure whatever shop=general would fit here, note that OSM wiki describes<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">two meaning of general store (UK and USA one) and both explicitly list food as one of sold products.<br></div><blockquote class="tutanota_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid #93A3B8; padding-left: 10px; margin-left: 5px;"><div dir="ltr"><div class=""><div>I have to ask what purpose is served by deprecating general. If it were an EXACT synonym of<br></div><div>one of the other shop types then remove it. But it's not. There are a lot of grey areas in shop<br></div><div>types, so it makes sense to leave it. Otherwise we end up deciding whether we should force<br></div><div>a triangular peg into a square hole or a round hole. There are around 3,500 general stores<br></div><div>mapped, about 0.1% of total shops. Are we to assume that ALL of those could be better<br></div><div>described with a different value? Or are we to remove all rarely-used values just because<br></div><div>they are rarely used?<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="16px" text-align="left"><div style="16px">If there is no real information loss then it is preferable to have lower number shop types,<br></div><div style="16px">as it is easier to map and easier to use such data.<br></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px">And given that shop=general is quite often used it would be nice to know what is <br></div><div style="16px">its meaning and how it differs from other shop types.<br></div><div style="16px"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">Additional problem with shop=general is that with so generic name it is used in various ways.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">You jest explained that it would fit well in your example because it was selling no food, while Emj<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">(link to the initial wiki version:<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dgeneral&oldid=168923">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:shop%3Dgeneral&oldid=168923</a><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">)<br></div></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">explicitly listed food as one of products shared in UK and US meanings.<br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left"><br></div><div style="16px" text-align="left">It seems to me that this shop value is confusing and duplicates existing ones.<br></div> </body>
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