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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">As an example of a locality that has
never had a population <br>
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<span class="st"><em>The Wheel</em> (a car wheel - no tyre) was
originally mounted on a tree by bushwalkers to mark the hub of
the Blue Labyrinth's ridges.<br>
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No one has ever lived there. Plenty of people go past, and it
still a navigational feature. <br>
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Fairly certain other localities have their stories to tell too.
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</span>n 15/04/19 17:23, Warin wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">From the original start of
place=locality<br>
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<i>All current place tags are for either populated areas, or for
larger areas of County sized or bigger. The place=locality tag
is useful for places that have a specific name, but do not
necessarily have any geographic feature or population centre
that could be used to attach a name tag to. </i><br>
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That to me suggest that places that locality can be a place that
had population, or places that did not have a population. <br>
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But, I agree, that places that had a population would be better
tagged disused:/abandonded: place=hamlet/town/village/city<br>
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I think that can go on the wiki for locality... under 'when not
to use' with the others there. <br>
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On 15/04/19 17:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:<br>
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On 15. Apr 2019, at 03:55, Joseph Eisenberg <<a
href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr"><span>The most important value would be one for
a locality that is a former</span><br>
<span>populated place but no longer has a population.</span></div>
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<div>I’ve always understood the population part of the locality
tag definition as a way of saying the place name does not
relate to a settlement or dwelling (but it doesn’t necessarily
mean nobody is living around there, it means this name is not
for an inhabited place). A generic tag for a place name/
toponym, to be used where no specific tag has yet been
developed.</div>
<div>(e.g. we have specific tags for toponyms that refer to
mountain peaks, wetlands, lakes, islands, deserts, caves,
settlements, etc. so we don’t use locality for them)</div>
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<div>I’m not sure I’d support locality subtags, for lots of
things a main tag might be more fitting with the established
tagging system, but it depends on the actually proposed
values.</div>
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<div>For ghost towns (settlements) I’ve found a lot tagged as </div>
<div>abandoned:place=hamlet/village/town</div>
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href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/abandoned:place#values"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/abandoned:place#values</a></div>
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<div>which seems inline with the rest of our tagging and is by
far more frequent than any “ghost” variations.</div>
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<div>Cheers, Martin </div>
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