<div dir="ltr"><div>I am heavily mapping cycling-related objects in Italy. I have only occasionally listened into this discussion due to lack of time.<br></div><div>Let me just comment on a few things:</div><div><br></div><div>The problem number one is that cycling-related traffic rules are much more variegated. Creating a uniform approasch for all countries is most likely impossible.</div><div><br></div><div>Problem number two in Italy, in addition, the rules are contradictory, ill defined, often not known even to experts. I astill have not figured out how to map all situations that i have so far encountered in my city. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I don't think it's agood idea to create separate pages for footway=crossing; cycleway=crossing; path=crossing; track=crossing; service=crossing (yes we need all of them here in Italy, as they all can be foot- or bicycle- or foot-and-bicycle crossings on roads and cycleways (the latter are foot crossings on cycleways)<br></div><div>This should all be in an "...=crossing" page.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with Hubert87 in using</div><div style="margin-left:40px">
hw=footway + footway=crossing<br>
hw=cycleway + cycleway=crossing<br>
hw=path + path=crossing <br></div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Volker<br></div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>
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</div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 18:44, Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Apr 16, 2019, 3:47 PM by <a href="mailto:marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com" target="_blank">marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com</a>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_4573775811659619693tutanota_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div>Le 16.04.19 à 15:25, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit :<br></div><blockquote><div>Apr 16, 2019, 2:50 PM by <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="mailto:marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com" target="_blank">marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com</a>:<br></div><div><br></div><div> > highway=path/highway=footway that has bicycle=yes/bicycle=designated.<br></div><div><br></div><div> highway=path + path=crossing + bicycle=yes|designate<br></div><div> or highway=footway + footway=crossing + bicycle=yes|designate<br></div><div> is not enought ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>It is enough, I rephrased it. Hopefully it is now more redable<br></div><div>direct link: <a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway%3Dcrossing" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway=crossing</a><br></div><div>edit: <br></div><div><a rel="noopener noreferrer" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag%3Acycleway%3Dcrossing&type=revision&diff=1843156&oldid=1843110" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:cycleway=crossing&type=revision&diff=1843156&oldid=1843110</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>yes it's more redable, but i still find it strange.<br></div><div>I think this tag only makes sense when one of these<br></div><div>two ways crosses a road :<br></div><div>highway=cycleway<br></div><div>or<br></div><div>highway=path|footway + cycleway=*<br></div><div><br></div><div>if there is no cycleway=* before the crossing,<br></div><div>it is normal that the crossing way does not have a cycleway<br></div><div>e.g. a highway=path + cycleway=no + bicycle=yes crossing a road<br></div><div>must not have a cycleway=crossing. no cycleway exist there.<br></div></blockquote><div>I never used this tagging but it happens. For example <a href="http://mpi.krakow.pl/pliki/293415/3" target="_blank">http://mpi.krakow.pl/pliki/293415/3</a><br></div><div>(image from <a href="http://krakow.pl/aktualnosci/226594,1912,komunikat,awaria_wodociagu_na_skrzyzowaniu_ul__opolskiej_i_al__29_listopada.html" target="_blank">http://krakow.pl/aktualnosci/226594,1912,komunikat,awaria_wodociagu_na_skrzyzowaniu_ul__opolskiej_i_al__29_listopada.html</a> )<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.08591&mlon=19.95453#map=19/50.08591/19.95453" target="_blank">https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=50.08591&mlon=19.95453#map=19/50.08591/19.95453</a><br></div><div>has dedicated cycleway crossing, without cycleway on either side<br></div><div>(depending on how pedantic you are, cycling on surrounding footways may be<br></div><div>even considered illegal).<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div> </div>
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