<div dir="ltr"><div>I would consider what is here described as access aisle (according to the photo [1]) part of the parking space. Here in Italy any parking space for the disabled has a dedicated "access aisle" similar to the photo.<br></div><div>If you want to achieve disabled (wheelchair) routing I would assume it to be sufficient to map the disabled parking spaces within the car park.<br></div><div><br></div><div>
[1] <a href="https://mycloud.snowandsnow.us/index.php/s/F2mAATCQ54SzfcT" target="_blank">https://mycloud.snowandsnow.us/index.php/s/F2mAATCQ54SzfcT</a>
</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 2 May 2019 at 11:31, Tony Shield <<a href="mailto:tony.shield999@gmail.com">tony.shield999@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Having today downloaded and read SN01360 [2] |I disagree with the
interpretation. In that document there is only one mention of
'aisle' it being an 'access aisle' in Section 5.4 paragraph marked
Off-Street Parking -" <span style="font-family:FrutigerLTStd-Bold;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal"><b>Off-street
parking</b><span style="font-family:FrutigerLTStd-Light;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal">:
bays should be a minimum of 4800 mm long<br>
<span style="font-family:FrutigerLTStd-Light;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal">by
2400 mm wide with additional space: (1) where bays are<br>
<span style="font-family:FrutigerLTStd-Light;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal">parallel
to the access aisle and access is available from the side
an<br>
<span style="font-family:FrutigerLTStd-Light;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal">extra
length of at least 180 0mm, or (2) where bays are<br>
<span style="font-family:FrutigerLTStd-Light;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal">perpendicular
to the access aisle, an additional width of at least<br>
<span style="font-family:FrutigerLTStd-Light;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-variant:normal">1200
mm along each side. </span></span></span></span></span><br style="font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
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<div class="gmail-m_-6850702075196147787moz-cite-prefix">I read that as saying the 'access
aisle' is that which in OSM is marked as 'parking _aisle', and it
leads to a parking bay designated for disabled users, the 'access
aisle' is not exclusively for the use of disabled users. I am of
the opinion that 'access' is misinterpreted to refer only to
disabled users which is a very restrictive interpretation of the
usual interpretation of access being for anybody. I think it is
something to be very careful about.</div>
<div class="gmail-m_-6850702075196147787moz-cite-prefix">Usage in the UK supports my
interpretation - I know of many car parks where ordinary and
disabled spaces are next to each other and accessed by a single
way which has no restrictions.<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_-6850702075196147787moz-cite-prefix">For parking bays I think that the
tag:amenity=parking _space is clear.<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_-6850702075196147787moz-cite-prefix">Regards</div>
<div class="gmail-m_-6850702075196147787moz-cite-prefix">TonyS999</div>
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<div class="gmail-m_-6850702075196147787moz-cite-prefix">On 02/05/2019 08:21, Alessandro
Sarretta wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Clifford,<br>
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<div class="gmail-m_-6850702075196147787moz-cite-prefix">On 02/05/19 00:13, Clifford Snow
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Since the off loading area is
called an access aisle, both in the US and UK [2], it
seem to me that it would be an appropriate term to use.
Would using highway=footway + footway=access_aisle +
wheelchair=yes be a more acceptable tagging scheme? My
concern is that just adding wheelchair=yes to a footway
doesn't get at the requirement for the width of the
access_aisle.
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<div>[1] <a href="https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking" target="_blank">https://www.access-board.gov/guidelines-and-standards/buildings-and-sites/about-the-ada-standards/guide-to-the-ada-standards/chapter-5-parking</a></div>
<div>[2] <a href="https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01360/SN01360.pdf" target="_blank">https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01360/SN01360.pdf</a></div>
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<p>I'm really supporting your proposal for a highway=footway +
footway=access_aisle.</p>
<p>I would match this with a wheelchair=designated instead of a
wheelchair=yes, as suggested by Mateusz Konieczny.<br>
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<p>Best,</p>
<p>Ale<br>
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