<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 21:19, Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div><br><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Can you have zebra stripes without lights or are they only ever present with lights?<br></div></div></div><div>You can have zebra stripes with lights and without lights.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_-7893491230990266285tutanota_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>If you can have zebra stripes without lights that mean something different to zebra stripes<br></div><div>with lights, that could be a problem for the blind. <br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Main difference is that without traffic lights who can move depends on situation<br></div><div>(neither drivers nor pedestrians have absolute priority), with lights who can legally enter <br></div><div>is marked by traffic lights.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail-m_-7893491230990266285tutanota_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(147,163,184);padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div> If zebras only occur in Poland with lights then it's just a crossing=traffic_lights.<br></div></div></div></blockquote><div>Unfortunately - not only.<br></div> </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>OK then, you've said you can have lights without stripes. Is there any legal difference in</div><div>the way pedestrians/motorists interact with and without stripes? If not, then the stripes are</div><div>cosmetic, not functional.</div><div><br></div><div>However, they still pose a problem for the blind. With macular degeneration you might be</div><div> able to make out stripes but not see the signals. Which would mean that without OSM</div><div>making a distinction they wouldn't know which type of crossing it was. But right now they</div><div>have that problem anyway, and if it was a serious concern I'd hope Poland would have</div><div>done something about it by now. If I understand correctly, they don't have right of way</div><div>in stripes alone and only have right of way at lights if the light changes and/or audible or</div><div>other alert, so they're not going to walk into traffic whichever type of crossing they encounter.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div></div></div>