<html><head></head><body><div class="ydpd58da2efyahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391"><div><div class="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpa52b1459yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>I'd like to separate the discussions about<i> amenity=power_supply</i> (my proposal) and the enhancement/merging of the <i>socket:</i> and <i>power_supply</i> key.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On topic: I think it is important that information can be added by looking at the device. This means that in my opinion <i>socket:cee_blue= </i>and<i> socket:cee_red= </i>should be valid tags. The amperes, if known, could be added with socket:[type]:current= like suggested in the wiki.<br><i></i></div><div><i><br></i></div><div><i></i><br></div></div><div id="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpee0e6f8eyahoo_quoted_2119779329" class="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpee0e6f8eyahoo_quoted">
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Am Dienstag, 25. Juni 2019, 11:36:16 MESZ hat John Sturdy <jcg.sturdy@gmail.com> Folgendes geschrieben:
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<div><div id="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpee0e6f8eyiv1094877413"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>For the "socket" key: I suggest putting the current rating onto the cee_blue sockets (cee_blue_16a, cee_blue_32a, etc) rather than limiting it to one rating; this will also make it consistent with the cee_red_* sockets.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Also, BS1363 (UK, Ireland, and quite a few other countries --- see <a shape="rect" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets:_British_and_related_types#International_usage_of_Type_G" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets:_British_and_related_types#International_usage_of_Type_G</a>) is missing.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>__John<br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpee0e6f8eyiv1094877413gmail_quote"><div class="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpee0e6f8eyiv1094877413yqt5059857496" id="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpee0e6f8eyiv1094877413yqt77226"><div class="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpee0e6f8eyiv1094877413gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Jun 23, 2019 at 2:45 AM Warin <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpee0e6f8eyiv1094877413gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
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<div class="ydpd58da2efyiv9279603391ydpee0e6f8eyiv1094877413gmail-m_4430124942207060984moz-cite-prefix">On 23/06/19 01:39, Michael Brandtner
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Thank you for your comments so far. I've now written a proposal.
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definition (wording can surely be improved):</div>
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This could be applied to an airport that provides USB charging ports
at table/desk/chair .<br clear="none">
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taken into account your discussion about different socket
types. This would be the topic for a different proposal about
improving the power_supply= sub-tag. But this proposal is only
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Unfortunately the connection will be a vital detail for most. e.g.
Some items can be charged from a USB post others cannot. <br clear="none">
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I would think that there needs to be one tag for the connection
'detail'. It needs to be able to be applied to any tag where the
connection detail is to be tagged. <br clear="none">
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At the moment there are 2 keys for this detail<br clear="none">
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These should be combined into one universal sub key that could be
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I think most map users will be after a USB power port to charge
their phone! So that should be a priority and something that should
be mentioned on your proposal as it will then get a lot of
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I think you will find that the socket type is a vital detail and
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Minor detail: The order of the 'usefull combination' can be better.
Access, fee and socket type should be at the top. <br clear="none">
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