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<div>I however consider a path to be a generic, almost unbound to physical properties, entity allowing an object to travel from a to b in urban or rural space. The main point here is, that 'path' _can_ be defined as an unpaved, one man width little way, but it does by no means have this meaning in any context and for each and everyone using that vocabulary.</div>
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<div>highway=path has been _defined_ in the OSM realm to be as closely a thing described in the OSM wiki, enriched by the outliers you find in the data and can echo back using taginfo or tools alike. There's no use to redefine the meaning and usage it gained over years. Especially in combination with tags like footway=sidewalk you may also notice that there's no need to do this.</div>
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<div>Greetings</div>
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<div style="margin:0 0 10px 0;"><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 08. Juli 2019 um 09:51 Uhr<br/>
<b>Von:</b> "Márton Keleti" <tejes@hac.hu><br/>
<b>An:</b> "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br/>
<b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Tagging] JOSM's "suspicious" path data warnings</div>
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<div>I consider using highway=path on urban shared cycle/footways a very bad an confusing practice. A path is an unpaved, one man width little way in a forest or a green area. This is not a by default paved cycleway nor a footway.
<div>I prefer using cycleway for these shared ways, because that is the highest in hierarchy. Path is the lowest, and when looking on a map, seeing a path, I don't think that it could be a well lit and paved cycleway. Many primary roads can be accessed via bicycle and foot too, but still we don't map it as a path, with motor_vehicle=designated, etc.</div>
<div>I think these paths are polluting urban maps and misinforming map users.</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Márton</div>
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<div class="gmail_attr">Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com'; return false;" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> ezt írta (időpont: 2019. júl. 7., V 0:10):</div>
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<div>7 lip 2019, 00:07 od <a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com'; return false;" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>:</div>
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<div>6 lip 2019, 23:52 od <a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com'; return false;" target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>:</div>
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<div>On 6. Jul 2019, at 23:41, Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" onclick="parent.window.location.href='mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com'; return false;" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>It sounds like bicycle=yes, at least that is</div>
<div>how such objects are tagged in Poland.</div>
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<div>at least in Germany there is a difference between bicycle=yes on a footway (it means they must not ride faster than walking speed and give way to pedestrians) and bicycle=designated which means it is a dedicated shared way and pedestrians and cyclists are on the same level.</div>
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<div>Or in order words, with yes it is still a footway with an exception for bicycles, while with dedicated it becomes a mixed-use way.</div>
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<div>It is the same in Poland, though on</div>
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<div>pedestrians have priority over cyclists, sorry</div>
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