<div><div dir="auto">There are still 2 problems with healthcare:equipment:</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">1) Healthcare:equipment is yet another new feature key for database users to support, if tagged on its own node at the location of the MRI. This requires Osm20gsql users like the main Openstreetmap-Carto style to reload the whole planet database before this key can be supported for rendering, routing or search applications. Using amenity=MRI or healthcare=MRI would be easier for current database users to support and it’s shorter for mappers to type.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">2) If you want to add this as a tag to an amenity=hospital, then you can’t add both an MRI and a CT scanner, for example, since a key can only have one value. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">So in that case you still need MRI=yes as an addition key to tag on an existing facility. I suspect this tagging will be more common than mapping the MRI separately, and it certainly will be more common for ultrasounds, which are on wheels (casters) usually and can move around the hospital.</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Joseph</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 4:01 AM Mhairi O'Hara <<a href="mailto:mhairi.ohara@hotosm.org">mhairi.ohara@hotosm.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hello everyone!</div><div><br></div><div>I completely agree with Warin that the <b>health_amenity:type</b> tag is pretty confusing as to what its referring to. I was trying to stay in line with what was proposed previously, but in retrospect it would be better to move away from previous efforts and vote in a tag that is straight forward and easy to understand (says what it is).</div><div><br></div><div>The main aim for the tag is to encapsulate that its related to health equipment, so how about <b>healthcare:equipment</b>?</div><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Mhairi</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 4:43 PM Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_2253964052862820198gmail-m_4242831532282797205moz-cite-prefix">This is about the equipment available?
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Using the principle of 'say what it is' ...<br>
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medical_equipment=MRI ??? Assuming the tag is for equipment. <br>
<br>
Calling the key health_amenity:type "in use" is a stretch - 40
uses .. and most of these are for first aid kits!<br>
The next most popular is "scales".<br>
Fist aid kits have the tag emergency=first_aid_kit ... which is
more popular (170) despite it being a "draft". <br>
<br>
No, I don't think is is "in use" nor has it been used in a
sensible way. Probably because "type" can mean anything. <br>
<br>
health_facility:type has the same problem, despite being more
popular, uses are for <br>
dispensary<br>
office<br>
clinic<br>
hospital <br>
etc<br>
<br>
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On 14/07/19 23:18, François Lacombe wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Mark,<br>
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<div>I agree with your choice to specifiy which service are
available in a given facility.</div>
<div>This doesn't require to add :type in the name of the key.
Such suffixe don't bring any information.</div>
<div>Your proposal would be way better if you use
health_amenit=MRI
at least instead</div>
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<div>All the best</div>
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<div>François<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Le jeu. 11 juil. 2019
à 21:10, Mark Herringer <<a href="mailto:mark@healthsites.io" target="_blank">mark@healthsites.io</a>>
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to specify physical equipment (health_amenity:type=MRI)
and should be used in conjunction with amenity=clinic to
show that the health facility contains that specialised
equipment. This will enable mappers say that "this clinic
contains an MRI"<br>
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08:15, Joseph Eisenberg <<a href="mailto:joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com" target="_blank">joseph.eisenberg@gmail.com</a>>
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health_amenity:type<br>
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I think the key "healthcare" should be used instead of
the new key<br>
health_amenity:type". If it's necessary to tag an MRI
facility<br>
separately, then create a tag like "healthcare=mri".<br>
<br>
However, it may be more useful to use a tag like
"mri=yes" on the<br>
main amenity=hospital or the radiology department within
the medical<br>
centre - this tag would let mappers say that "this
hospital contains<br>
an MRI" without requiring mappers to precisely locate
the MRI<br>
equipment within the building. This would also make it
easier for<br>
database users: they can just check for
"amenity=hospital" + "mri=yes"<br>
rather than doing a spacial query to find MRI nodes
within or near an<br>
amenity=hospital feature<br>
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On 6/20/19, Mhairi O'Hara <<a href="mailto:mhairi.ohara@hotosm.org" target="_blank">mhairi.ohara@hotosm.org</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Hello Tagging Mailing List,<br>
><br>
> We would like to bring your attention and comments
on the proposal for the<br>
> staff_count:doctors and staff_count:nurses tags,
which helps identify the<br>
> number of doctors and nurses at a given health
facility [1][2]. The<br>
> operational_status tag, which has been proposed
before and I would like to<br>
> highlight again, as this is used to document an
observation of the current<br>
> functional status of a mapped feature (i.e. health
facility) [3]. The<br>
> health_amenity:type tag is also being proposed, as
this indicates what type<br>
> of speciality medical equipment is available at the
health facility [4] and<br>
> the final tag is insurance:health which describes
the type of health<br>
> insurance accepted at a health facility [5].<br>
><br>
> Some of these are already in use but have never
been formally accepted, or<br>
> properly described as to how they should be
applied, which we would like to<br>
> try and achieve if possible for the Healthsites.io
project. Please take a<br>
> look at the proposal pages on the OSM Wiki, as well
as the Global<br>
> Healthsites Mapping Project page [2] which is at
the core of the recent<br>
> work focused on creating a health facility data
model. We look forward to<br>
> discussing these proposals on the respective Wiki
discussion pages.<br>
><br>
> Kind regards,<br>
><br>
> Mhairi<br>
><br>
> [1]<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:staff_count:doctors" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:staff_count:doctors</a><br>
> [2]<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:staff_count:nurses" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:staff_count:nurses</a><br>
> [3]<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:operational_status" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:operational_status</a><br>
> [4]<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:health_amenity:type" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:health_amenity:type</a><br>
> [5]<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:insurance:health" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:insurance:health</a><br>
> [6]<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Global_Healthsites_Mapping_Project#Tag_Proposal" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Global_Healthsites_Mapping_Project#Tag_Proposal</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> --<br>
> *Mhairi O'Hara*<br>
> Project Manager<br>
> <a href="mailto:mhairi.ohara@hotosm.org" target="_blank">mhairi.ohara@hotosm.org</a><br>
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