<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">highway=platform and/or railway=platform are needed, because<br>
public_transport=platform doesn't mean a platform, but a waiting area.<br>
And a waiting areas doesn't need to be a platform: some waiting areas<br>
are just poles or signs beside the road [1], others are located on the<br>
sidewalk [2]. Besides, there are platforms that aren't operated<br>
(anymore) and therefore aren't waiting areas, that is<br>
public_transport=platform's, anymore.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Well this is an error. For mi public_transport=platform should be a real platform. It has no sense to have an irreal tag.</div><div>In the stop_position tag you can assure this with platform=yes or platform=no.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>When the "new" public_transport tag came along, I asked how should I tag the nodes beside the street that represent the bus stops? Regardless of whether a platform is present. And the answer was to use public_transport=platform. So no, this is not an error.</div><div><br></div><div>For more than half a decade I have been trying to convince the people responsible for the rendering of the main map to render nodes with public_transport=platform + bus=yes like highway=bus_stop.</div><div><br></div><div>It became clear by now that this will NEVER happen.</div><div><br></div><div>Thus public_transport=platform / bus=yes to replace highway=bus_stop became unnecessary. I think I'm going to remove those 2 tags everywhere in Belgium, when I review those 70000 bus stops, this time with help of Mapillary images for the positioning. They became pointless.</div><div><br></div><div>But until now, I was using them. I was also using highway=platform to indicate the real bus platforms and railway=platform for the tram stops. Either in combination with public_transport=platform, or not. What I was not doing is duplicating information on these platform ways, or on the occasional stop_position node I was adding. And they also don't go into the route relations.</div><div><br></div><div>1 object per stop in the route relations should be enough. I'm using the nodes that represent the bus stops / passenger waiting areas next to the highways for the purpose of representing the stops along the itineraries. Works great! And isn't overly complicated or needing a lot of unnecessary maintenance.</div><div><br></div><div>We need the simplest way of doing things that works.</div><div><br></div><div>When Uber starts flying, we'll tackle that problem then. No need for a future proof public_transport scheme for that purpose.</div><div><br></div><div>Polyglot</div><div><br></div></div></div>