<div dir="ltr">At the moment, 'unclassified' has so many different opinions that it means nothing at all. Could we at least agree on the basics:<div><br></div><div>A. "unclassified" means you don't know the class;</div><div>or</div><div>B. "unclassified" is a class in itself.</div><div><br></div><div>If A the UK needs an alternative for roads officially classified as 'unclassified'. I would go with 'quaternary' because it can be applied anywhere.</div><div><br></div><div>If B a better differentiation is needed. I think defining it as "same as <other class>" is not helpful. Current OSM-usage is not helpful, because it just reflects the indecision and confusion. Maybe it's best to define "unclassified" as UK-only, and add quaternary for the missing step between tertiary and residential.</div><div><br></div><div>Why missing link? I don't know the whole world, but all european countries I know have some sort of official classification of three levels to move around the country, and a lot of other public roads, brushed together as a rest category of "other roads". If we classify in the database, that's 'unclassified' or quaternary for me. Then residential roads/areas are mostly entered through those.</div><div><br></div><div>As it stands, routing/navigating is not that bad, probably because I use OSM mainly for cycling/walking.</div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Vr gr Peter Elderson</div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op ma 5 aug. 2019 om 07:11 schreef Florian Lohoff <<a href="mailto:f@zz.de">f@zz.de</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 07:55:16PM +0100, ael wrote:<br>
> On Sun, Aug 04, 2019 at 04:23:03PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:<br>
> > sent from a phone<br>
> > > On 4. Aug 2019, at 15:37, Florian Lohoff <<a href="mailto:f@zz.de" target="_blank">f@zz.de</a>> wrote:<br>
> > > A residential is also an unclassified road.<br>
> > <br>
> > IMHO it is not, as an unclassified road is part of the interconnection grid, while a residential road is not <br>
> <br>
> My reply was going to be much the same. Unclassified roads are generally<br>
> for "through traffic". Residential raods are primarily for access to<br>
> those buildings, and would not (normally) be used for travel to other<br>
> destinations.<br>
<br>
No statement in the Wiki backs up this claim. This is what i say.<br>
<br>
No statement about through traffic. Residentials are for through<br>
traffic aswell although their primary purpose may be access to the<br>
residential area.<br>
<br>
This is what our algorithmic brothers in routing/navigation do. Treating<br>
unclassified and residential the same.<br>
<br>
And we cant distinguish these 2 by hard facts. Its more or less "felt<br>
traffic pattern" or "believe" or "experience" how you tag.<br>
<br>
Flo<br>
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