<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature" dir="ltr">sent from a phone</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On 10. Aug 2019, at 14:23, Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>except</div><div>for the problem that vending=* doesn't really mean that in OSM but is used in</div><div>conjunction with vending machines.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>vending means exactly this in OpenStreetMap: what a thing sells. It is mainly used with vending machines to say what they sell, but it could be used for other features as well. <div><br></div><div>In this case of a shop selling fruit I would also have thought of greengrocer, although shop=fruit for fruit only shops seems suitable as well (despite the low usage). Against the greengrocer tag stands that it requires vegetables to be sold as well as fruits.</div><div><br></div><div>At least this seems to fit the osm definition, in natural language a shop might require a building? These would be called booth or stand?</div><div>Our wiki says for shop: “<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">A place selling retail products or services.” and in the building related paragraph: “Most shops are located within a building” (which suggests some are not), so a building may not be a strict requirement?</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shops">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shops</a></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop</a></div><div><br></div><div>(the information is split across 2 pages for the shop key), as well meaning as this may be intended, I would prefer to reduce this back to a single page.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>There are also ~350 shop=street_vendor which would theoretically fit for your situation, although I would not use the tag (too generic to be useful (e.g. does it sell bags, fruit or cellphone covers?), suffering from the same semantic contradiction that a shop requires normally a building, and the part of the definition saying it can be in a covered market hall also seems strange, as this isn’t a street vendor).</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Oh, and we should really have used product=* rather than produce=* to resolve</div><div>that ambiguity, but we didn't. Mainly, I suspect, because in English "produce" refers</div><div> to things that are grown and "product" refers to things that are made/extracted.</div></div></blockquote><br></div><div><br></div><div>we do use “produce” for agricultural produce and “product” in conjunction with man made works and similar.</div><div><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/produce#values">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/produce#values</a></div><div><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/product">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/product</a></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers Martin </div></body></html>