<div dir="ltr">If there's just information on paper or web, I wouldn't map it. If there is just an information board with a map, I would map that as tourist=information.<div>I only map if there is actually something on the ground that shows where the route is. How accurate and adequate that is, is another matter.<br><div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Vr gr Peter Elderson</div></div><br></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Op za 17 aug. 2019 om 15:36 schreef Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com">pla16021@gmail.com</a>>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 17 Aug 2019 at 14:05, s8evq <<a href="mailto:s8evq@runbox.com" target="_blank">s8evq@runbox.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:00:32 +0100, Paul Allen <<a href="mailto:pla16021@gmail.com" target="_blank">pla16021@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Does it have to be signposted as a walking route? <br>
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In my opinion yes. It's an objective fact, visible on the ground, and can be verified.<br>
Let's put it otherwise: "Besides signs and trail markers, what other facts or properties of the route would you consider sufficient in order to map the route"?<br>
<br></blockquote><div>A map with copyright permitting OSM to make use of its data. There are several walks near</div><div>me which appear on maps published by the county council or tourist board. Copyright does</div><div>not permit me to make use of those maps. However, some of those walks will be</div><div>sign-posted/waymarked, so they could be mapped (but not by me, I'm nowhere near fit</div><div>enough).<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
One example: My running club has also a group of people who go on a walk together, every Wednesday. They have been doing the same 5km route for the last 7 or 8 years. Should that be mapped? It's not indicated, not written down, just common knowledge among club members. My feeling tells me something like that shouldn't be in OSM.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If it's not indicated or written down, then no. But what about Cilgerran Walkers Are Welcome?</div><div>They were awarded "Walkers are Welcome" status in 2008. Their walks appeared in a (now</div><div>out-of-print) book. Three of their walks are described on their web site:</div><div><a href="http://walkingcilgerran.btck.co.uk/Walksinthearea" target="_blank">http://walkingcilgerran.btck.co.uk/Walksinthearea</a></div><div>They also have a map of their walks on a noticeboard in their village. With their permission,</div><div> I put one of those routes into OSM so they could decide whether or not to give permission to</div><div> add the rest. Their group seems to have as many divided opinions as we do here, as I've heard</div><div> nothing more in about a year.</div><div><br></div><div>These aren't long walks for serious walkers. Nothing like the E2 in Yorkshire, or the Wales</div><div>Coastal Path. But this area relies heavily on the tourist trade and these are the sorts</div><div>of walks tourists would appreciate.<br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
Another example: there are lot's of walks in small nature reserves in my region. They are published online, as a PDF containing a small map of the nature reserve. The routes are also indicated on an information board with a map. (for example <a href="https://www.westtoer.be/sites/westtoer_2015/files/styles/route_main_image_desktop/public/win_synced_photos/natuurpunt_wandelingen_damme-52909-0.jpg" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.westtoer.be/sites/westtoer_2015/files/styles/route_main_image_desktop/public/win_synced_photos/natuurpunt_wandelingen_damme-52909-0.jpg</a>)<br>
Would you map this? ...And then there's also copyright restrictions to consider.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would map public footpaths, if I found information about them where the copyright permits.</div><div>A collection of footpaths that somebody has defined as a walk is another matter, because</div><div>copyright issues are more likely to arise. If the copyright permitted it, would you deem</div><div>any of these</div><div> <a href="https://www.ceredigion.gov.uk/resident/coast-countryside/exploring-ceredigion/walks-and-rides/" target="_blank">https://www.ceredigion.gov.uk/resident/coast-countryside/exploring-ceredigion/walks-and-rides/</a></div><div>suitable or unsuitable? Many of them appear on maps on noticeboards. I'd expect many to</div><div>be signposted and waymarked, but am too unhealthy to look. Would they only be mappable</div><div>if signposted/waymarked or would a map without copyright problems be enough?<br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><br></div></div>
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